118-110

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  1. craney91

    craney91 Boxing Addict banned

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    118-110? Who was that judge? Carl's wife or mother? :-(

    Kessler WAS NEVER gonna win this fight with that sort of judging, even if he did enough to win the fight. :deal

    I had it 115-114 Froch and I watched the fight carefully and fairly. I suppose another round or two for Froch would of been alright on 115-114 though. Self interpretation and all that. Even Kessler admitted this at the press conference. But 118-110 is an insult to the sport, and whoever that was should not be allowed to judge a fight again.

    This is what I had:

    1st - Froch
    2nd - Froch
    3rd - Froch
    4th - Kessler
    5th - Kessler
    6th - Kessler

    57-57 at the half way stage.

    7th - Froch
    8th - Froch
    9th - Kessler
    10th - Draw
    11th - Kessler

    105-105 going into the final round.

    12th - Froch

    115-114 Froch. Close but clear. :deal




    118-110 though? :-( :lol: .......discuss.......
     
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  2. elbrujito

    elbrujito Well-Known Member Full Member

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    every fight nowadays has atleast 1 crackpot scorecard it cant come as a shock anymore

    the judges who do it time and time again should just be made to expalin there reasoning after or just ****ed off - but the promoters like to have there bankers onboard

    the whole scoring system probably needs a major overhaul but what would you do to simplyfiy and improve it im not sure
     
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  3. craney91

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    No it doesnt anymore, you're right, I agree. You wouldn't expect anything less!

    Anybody who saw 8 rounds in that fight, never mind "should of gone", they NEED to go to specsavers!!!! :rofl
     
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  4. connorcinhull

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    115-113 Froch was fair in my opinion. 116-112 is tolerable because there was a close round or two but anything else is OTT
     
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  5. AndyPaterson

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    that wasn't a 8 point fight.
     
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  6. craney91

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    115-113 I have no problem with whatsoever. I had it 115-114 because I scored the 10th a draw. Both men did well in that 10th, but neither did enough to win the round for themselves. They both deserved a 10.

    8 rounds though?

    That is an insult to boxing.
     
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  7. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All that matters is the right guy gets the win these days. 115-114 is the same as 120-108 in terms of picking the winner in the scoring system.
     
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  8. Marlow

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    I never understand the logic of overly wide scorecards being bent, surely if you were on someone's payroll you'd make it close to avoid suspicion not 118-110.

    Just incompetence.
     
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  9. Bladecatcher

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    That's a horrible scorecard. Not a chance there was an 8 point gap in the fight.
     
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  10. outthebox

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    It was Adelaide Byrd.

    It's quite interesting as she scored Hopkins / Calzaghe for Hopkins, which you would imagine was based on the cleaner work, harder shots etc over activity and aggression.

    Last night I felt Kessler landed the cleaner shots and looked the classier operator but was largely outworked by Froch's punch output and aggression.

    To be clear - Froch won for me by 1 or 2, but just find it interesting..
     
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  11. True_Hero

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    It was ridiculous. That judge must have fell asleep after round 3...

    I had it.

    1 - Froch
    2 - Froch
    3 - Froch
    4 - Kessler
    5 - Kessler
    6 - Froch
    7 - Froch
    8 - Froch
    9 - Kessler
    10 - Kessler
    11 - Kessler
    12 - Froch

    7 - 5 Froch. Very close fights and a few of the rounds could have gone either way.
     
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  12. shaunster101

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    That's like the reverse of the card that Kessler got in his favour in Denmark wasn't it? Didn't he get something ridiculous like 118-110 or 117-111 in his favour?

    increasingly seems these days that you get 2 respectable (to use the term loosely) cards and then one that's clearly for the 'right' guy on the night.
     
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  13. USA Rob

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    US TV and others had it 117-111 so its only one difference. Anyway why is this a big deal, didn't a jude have Ward v Froch 115-113, Johnson a draw, Kessler v Froch 1 as 118-110.

    As long as the right man wins.
     
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  14. Furey

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    118-110 is a joke, but daft score cards are to be expected as we all know.

    I had it 115-113 for Froch
     
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  15. craney91

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    I agree. But incompetent judging like this can screw fights. We've seen it man!

    No way was there 8 rounds in this fight, just think about that for a second. In a 12 round fight, baring in mind there was no knockdowns, Carl Froch had to win 10 rounds last night to get 118-110. It seemed pretty clear to me, and consistently across the board, that Froch won the first 3 and Kessler the next 3. So at the half way point most people had it either level 57-57 or Froch 4-2. If you did have it level at the 6th, then that means you can only give Froch 9 rounds, the last 6 plus the first 3 and that Mikkel Kessler won nothing from 6 to 12 and STILL even then Froch would of only had 117 in total, IF you had it level at the 6th! So for 118-110 - Kessler only won 2 rounds in the entire fight? :huh :lol:

    If you only gave 1 round to Kessler from 6-12, then you was watching a different fight! It seems that some people including maybe even that judge, gave him nothing from 6 to 12 and just 2 rounds between the 4th and the 6th! At least a couple or a few rounds between 6 to 12 Froch didn't do enough to win, was made to miss a lot by Kessler's movement and defence, and Kessler landed the better punches and did the tighter and cleaner work.

    No way was this an 8 or 7, 6, 5 or 4 round fight.

    3 rounds you're pushing it. 2 rounds maximum.

    Froch or Kessler fan or not. 118-110 is laughable! L-A-U-G-H-A-B-L-E
     
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