Kessler won that fight.

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  1. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    115-113 Froch
     
  2. ashedward

    ashedward Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know mate,the problem you had was that it was ppv and fair enough that's your opinion and I`m sure you would of talked about the fight in more glowing terms if it was on normal Sky.I just felt at one stage you were going overboard in to doing down the fight a little because of the fact it was ppv,it was always going to be quality and Kessler was still pretty decent imo:good
     
  3. USA Rob

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    why do you never post your scorecard?
     
  4. dftaylor

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    No particular reason. If I get a chance when I get home I'll put it up.
     
  5. ashedward

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    I would still favour Kessler against any other Super middleweight not named Ward or Froch.
     
  6. USA Rob

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    surely you can remember it?
     
  7. just finished rewatching the fight. last night i scored it 115-113 to froch.

    on the rewatch I scored it 116-112 to froch.

    round 10 was the hardest round to score

    kessler has a great recovery, he was hurt at least 3 times in the 8th round.
     
  8. USA Rob

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    How can you give a fighter credit for there defence when they got hot that many times??? 118-110 Froch is as credible a scorecard as Kessler winning.

    Based on the 4 criteria.

    Defence - Both men got hit to often in every round to justify scoring for defensive work.

    Ring Generalship - Only in the first 3 rounds did this come into play when Froch won them clear using the jab.

    So it comes down to effective aggression and clean punching. Froch was clearly the more aggressive and it was effective. Both were landing clean punches but Froch threw more and landed more (same as the first fight btw) but this time his shots has more effect. Kessler landed big clean shots but Froch's had more effect so they should be scored higher.
     
  9. craney91

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    And Froch didnt get hit more in some rounds?

    Come on man! Be equal at least. Your hero and favorite promotion won the fight, yes they did. But Kessler pushed him all the way.

    A lot of people said Kessler needed a knockout to win in those last few rounds. On my scorecard, if Kessler won that last round, he won the fight, he wouldnt have on the cards though. But IMO he won the fight or it was a draw. It was up for grabs and Froch's last round was superb, he had Kessler wobbling, the Ref was looking at it. It was a stunning effort that last round from Carl.

    Froch proved what he was all about in that final round. Fresh as a daisy and thats why he trains for 15.

    The man is a throwback. :happy
     
  10. JohnH

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    Complete and utter rubbish.
     
  11. USA Rob

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    Defence - Both men got hit to often in every round to justify scoring for defensive work. Any signs of good D was sporadic and shouldn't count towards a scorecard.

    If you gave Kessler or Froch credit for defense its because you were going out of your way to do so. Slipping the odd wide swinging out of range shot from Froch is not defence.
     
  12. Primadonna Kool

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    No.

    Early on the fight was the battle of the jabs, showing shades of Bruno vs Lewis. I noticed Kessler started jabbing to the chest a tactic..? Evander Holyfield used against Lennox Lewis in the rematch to great affect. For me..? Froch won the fight because he banked too many rounds early on. In the first fight it was Kessler who fought the more astute fight in the first half of the fight.

    Kessler, looked physically weaker than in the last fight. Things like balance, leg strength, and just the way he was reacting to punches. Froch on the other hand, phsyically and technically better than he has ever been. I enjoyed his jab in the early rounds, those early rounds where intense. Powerful jabbing from both guys!

    7-5 to Carl Froch

    I don't score fights as i watch them but..? for some reason i observed it as 7 rounds to Froch 5 rounds to Kessler.
     
  13. craney91

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    Both men were hitting one another and making each other miss. Froch's use of the jab early on won him the fight. It really did. Until Kessler worked out how to get past it and double up on his own jab, it was a bit to late. Froch won the fight no doubting that.

    IMO Kessler's defence was a bit better, OK he was getting his head knocked back with jabs, some not even all that, but he was using more upper body movement and timing to evade punches. Carl was making Kessler miss by slightly moving the head and being out of range. He wasn't actually making Kessler miss like Kessler was making Carl miss. Carl missed wildly, Carl didnt make Kessler miss like that.

    Does that make sense?

    I agree anyway, we both saw the fight pretty much the same way bar a point. 115-114, 115-113.

    No arguments with that. 118-110 though? :rofl
     
  14. DeathEater

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    Fight was 6-6 ;- its important to stay objective..
     
  15. Primadonna Kool

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    Kessler started to step in with his jab, instead of just throwing it.

    Its what Mike Tyson used to do! Its what David Haye should do against bigger heavyweights! David Haye if he really worked on it, could take Waldimir Kiltschko's jab off him. Its what Ray Mercer did to Lennox Lewis!

    But..? Kessler did not do it enough! It shows that he is a clever guy that he was able to do that in stints though.

    I think Kessler could of won the fight if..? he could of stepped in more with the jab, and then go to the body. Not enough body shots from Kessler in my opinion strange..? tactical mistake there.

    In terms of punch variety, Kessler landed the more eye catching shots. I saw him attempting nice upper cuts, overhand rights, but it was strange that he..? neglected straight punches.

    Froch fought a better fight this time technical, where as Kessler didn't!