Froch belittling Andre Ward

Serious waste of money for any fight fan to go watch Froch/Ward. It'll be an absolute schooling, the venue will be as silent as a TOMB after 5 rounds. Froch won't give a **** as long as he can bleed that last big pay day out of the deaf dumb & blind.

 

I honestly think Froch would have a real go at him.

Ward wouldn't get away with all the gamesmanship and the crowd would goad him into opening up. That would give Froch a (small) chance.

 

Why would you doubt Froch or give him no chance against Ward?? He is clearly at the very top of his game,he clearly learns from his mistakes and he also more often than not rectifies mistakes.
And do not underestimate Rob McCrackens ability to come up with a game plan to give Ward a run for his money.

 

This is such crap. Eddie Hearn is not ready to sacrifice Froch to Ward again because Froch would lose again and badly. Froch is actually now starting to decline. His defense was terrible on Saturday night. Kessler made him miss badly at times.

 

Considering how Ward dominated Froch, this is pathetic. Even by his deluded standards.

 

After Bute and Kessler, Froch is beyond warrior now. It's a bit like when Gandolph the Grey turned into Gandolph the White.

 

That would be Byrd, the American judge yeah?

 

He sells in Oakland consistently. Where has this myth come from that Ward doesn't draw? He's a local star, he's got HBO behind him - where does Froch have any muscle to make those demands?

Also, he beat the **** out of Froch last time, so why should he give anything up? Froch is a petulant baby about Ward. "Ward is boring, he just likes to run, etc" - well, he stood enough to make your face look like it had been smacked about for 45 minutes.

Shameful the justification some are making for Froch not taking that fight. He should be desperate to rematch Ward, rather than complaining that he hasn't the skills to beat him.

 

Eddie Hearn's also been at it with the Carl's got the two belts, Ward none rubbish. Sickening hypocrisy.

 

You would have noticed Kessler hurt in round 11 and his knees buckled. I thought his define wasimproving against Arthur Abrahams.

 

Ward hasn't fought outside of California properly yet in the States. Goossen's negotiating position in the Super 6 (and I think it was documented on the first or second FightCamp 360) was that if all of Ward's group fights weren't in California then Ward wasn't taking part. If I remember rightly Ken Hershman was put in an awkward spot on film when Ward was openly celebrating the fact that he didn't have to travel even within the States whilst everyone else did.

It was then a battle just to get him to go to Atlantic City for the final after all the other guys had travelled all over the shop during that tournament. If Ward hadn't been contractually obligated to see the tournament through, then he wouldn't have fought Froch at that location and would've got out of it.

After the Super 6 he then turned down the Bute fight when US tv were falling over themselves for that. But because he couldn't keep it in California he turned to a weight drained Dawson in Oakland and was then lined up to fight Pavlik in Oakland until he got injured. Mayweather made pertinent comments about Ward - he's top 3 p4p and based in the States but hasn't fought in NY or Vegas yet.

I'll believe he's lining up a fight outside of a venue where his people don't run the whole show when I see it. Although he surely has to branch out soon if HBO are serious about him; one of the big fight venues in the States at least, but then he'll need a dance partner who sells.

 

I think it was just how it worked out. But you can't blame Goosen for doing right by his fighter, and it's not as if Ward needed any help in those fights.

Not my recollection. I thought AC was always the destination for the final so Showtime.

I agree with you that he should have fought Bute, but I sort of understood what he was saying. Either way, Bute's camp made no effort to get him up to Montreal. The rest of this paragraph is just biased. He didn't make Dawson come down to 168, Dawson offered. And Mayweather can hardly argue about home favours, can he?

I also didn't realise that the location of the fights has anything to do with a P4P ranking. The reason Ward fights in Oakland is pretty simple - he draws a crowd there. Dan Goosen is many things but top of them all he's a smart businessman. Why would he take his guy away from a place that makes him money, just to soothe the feelings of a bunch of boxing fans?

I don't see why he should, honestly. HBO doesn't care about the location as long as it's in the US and it's against a decent opponent.

People are really going out of their way to discredit Ward, presumably because it's the only way to make Froch look better.

 

First off, I have no bias towards Froch and believe he is being overrated in terms of his latest victory.

Secondly, Ward doesn't do the level of business you are assuming he does in Oakland. He stays there for other reasons. These reasons are why the Froch fight was delayed until a week before Christmas when it should have happened months earlier. The location of the final wasn't sorted out until the 2 fighters left in the tournament were known, and AC turned out to be the compromise location in terms of drawing Ward from the West coast to the East. What Team Ward then needed once they realised they couldn't get out of a more neutral location was a delay, which is why the fight happendd so late in the year.

Thirdly, HBO do care about the venue for the bigger fights where the location is important to the revenues needed to make the fight in the first place. Ward is yet to participate in a 'money fight'.