Does Andre Ward suffer from the same problems as the Klits?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean, both are accused of being "boring". In both cases, I believe it's more of the fact that Ward and the Klits don't have anyone close to their level in their divisions. I can't see anyone being a favorite against Ward at 160-175. Also, while the Klits/Ward might not necessarily have any ATG fighters on their records, they still have some very good names on them.
     
  2. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To a degree. But Wlad is the only truly boring fighter listed. Vitali actually engages his opponents and Ward actually displays incredible amounts of skill. To a casual fan, though, I can see them getting lumped together.

    But yes, both Andre and Wlad will be prohibitive favorites in pretty much any conceivable bout and neither will blast the opponent out in the first couple rounds.
     
  3. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yea they both hug to avoid taking punches back floyd mayweather does the sasme thing lands his punch then lunges in to hold to stop any punches coming back
     
  4. uNF

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    The boring excellence of peerless champions.
     
  5. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some people say that Ward wouldn't be so boring if he had devastating punching power. However, I feel that he's better because he doesn't have devastating power. Think about it. A fighter that DOESN'T have great punching power will usually have to work harder to win fights than a fighter with great punching power. A fighter with devastating power can sometimes rely too much on it.
     
  6. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In a lot of ways, I agree with this. Andre has to think his way through his fights. His best attribute is his ability to make adjustments.

    That's why I can't compare him to Wlad, who has only one strategy. Vitali makes more in ring adjustments.
     
  7. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    At least Ward fights top fighters like Froch. Wlad just takes the most easy non risky fight he can find. Wlad holds true boxing fans hostage because even he himself knows what will happen if he gets hit. The sad truth is he has got Heavyweight boxing kicked off USA TV. Being Heavyweight Champion means nothing anymore thanks to Wlad Klitschko. Vitali is the real champ anyway. The WBC is the real belt in my eyes. Wlad will never be WBC champ.
     
  8. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward's problem is fairly simple. He lacks power and is simply too good for even the top flight competition he's been taking on in recent years, so he's labeled as boring because his fights are one-sided. He fights consistently on the inside and outside, doesn't fight scared, and obviously tries for the stoppage, just lacks the power to get them often.

    Wlad on the other hand, fights mega-cautiously against a far lower level of competition that he could knock out early with his huge punching power, but he does not because he is terrified of getting his chin checked by anybody. He clinches repeatedly just to clinch and lean on said opposition, doesn't throw many punches, and only goes for the KO when his opponent is completely gone.
     
  9. JASPER

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    Ward is a genius in the ring, the K bros may have their PHDs but their techniques are pretty simple. You would never ever see a either bro dismantle a fighter the way Ward did to Froch (and at his own game at that). So what you have is a brilliant style that can solve any fighter versus a basic style that the other fighters in the division cannot solve. As a fan of the art of boxing what Ward can do is a thing of beauty, switch hitting, boxing inside, boxing outside, feints footwork, setting up his punches, footwork. Wlad does some of those things but he has never been pushed to reach the level of Ward so why would he?

    So if you didnt guess by now, i do not see anything in either bro that reminds me of Ward. If you are saying that none of them have any real challenges, I would agree but that "problem" is due to completely different reasons
     
  10. tliang1000

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    Wlad is an absolute joke of a fighter. For as big as he is and hard hitting, he fights like an absolute *****. I find myself surfing the web after 3 rounds for his last previous six fights. Ward is much less boring but when he goes into his hold and maul tactics, it becomes a snoozefest.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Being dominant doesn't automatically mean being boring, look at Tyson, he dominated the mid to late 80's and was probably the most exciting heavyweight ever.

    I personally don't find Vitali boring, he may lack the power he once had but he puts on a beat down when he has to. Wlad can be very tedious and frustrating to watch as he really only has one game plan and his spoiling, jab and grab style is repetitive and boring, though in his last couple of fights he has been more entertaining.

    I have learned to appreciate Ward's skills. Yes he is a bit of a spoiler himself but he has more than one game plan, he makes adjustments, has variety to his game.
     
  12. tennis

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    Ward is mayweather 2005

    A prime undefeated lion

    Unlike mayweather though, he has fought everyone and cleared the division out, but doesn't have a de la Hoya to make him a star

    At some point ward will have to go to hw because no one else has a shot
     
  13. Royal-T-Bag

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    kinda in that they're too good for everyone in their division but truth is Ward and Wlad, although too good, are very boring.
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Vitali has the highest KO percentage in heavyweight champion history and Vlad is not far behind. Klitschkos usually get knockouts. Void couldn't even knock out the last woman he beat up!

    SOB Ward beat Kessler by intentional illegal headbutt, but his personal referee called the illegal blow wonderful, as long as it's Ward who does it. Ward fights in his hometown with his own personal referee and judges.
     
  15. Benitom3

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    Yep. The shadow of Joe Calzaghe, much like the shadow of Lewis for thr Klitschkos