I'm talking strictly journeyman level here,been watching quite a lot of small hall stuff coldwell and others where the 'opponent' raises his game and either nicks it or At least makes it competitive Yet when watching more distinguished promoters prospects against the same names the said journeyman poses no threat and acts like a punchbag So do we have fighters taking a few quid to make the prospect look good Because I'd gladly give them a few to make these tedium fests more lively Or are they that good that its just 'levels'
Moot subject, there has been proven cases but you would be daft not to suspect it happens more often.
I think so, yeah. I've seen a few journeymen have a really bright opening round and then just not bother trying, en route to a 39-37 loss. Ridiculous.
I know there was the mafia stuff years ago and we are past that at the top level luckily But no different to bribing or treating judges and refs I just feel like over the last say 3 years where we have had the opportunity on British tv and Internet to watch full cards,I must have watched hundreds of rounds where the prospect is looking dynamic and the journeyman doesn't care as long as he survives for another show next week I understand that's there role in the sport but why and I'm not naming names do I see such varied performances from the same man I can think of 3 well known British journeymen who on their day look great and then on another totally disinterested Maybe it's just if they performed too often the phone would stop ringing
In fairness some journeymen get called in at really late notice and are obviously not as well prepared as they could be but there are so many strange fights and cases that you have to wonder, boxing is a dirty business at the best of times, you only have to look at certain promoters and management to work that out.
I dont think it goes on much, thing is about journeyman they can make a living for it , and some have 2/3 fights lined up in a month , and if they get ko/d they get an automatic 28 day ban so it would go against them ...
I don't think you can call it a dive as such if the fighter knows he is out of his depth and just does enough not to get hurt rather than go for the win.
No dive was the wrong thing to put,it's misleading My intention was to say are fighters paid to take it easy and let the other man look good Now clearly the Peter McDonaghs of this world aren't going to but there are lots of hard working boxers on a hiding to nothing that might be pleased to act as a punching bag And as for the imports,you can't tell me that the Eastern European boxing scenes that bad.at my local club we get lots of poles down and the vast majority are hard,proud men that give as good as they get and more
his fights were woeful some of Kimbos fights have been blatantly horrific dives, but calling his opponents journeymen would be an insult to actual journeymen sometimes a journeyman fancies it, sometimes he doesn't and coasts, but you have to remember, if he does come out of his shell and attacks he's taking a risk because he's opening himself up and if he gets caught and stopped then its an automatic month ban and for some journeymen that just won't do
Good call I think he didn't expect to put him down,it was just a short counter then he thought **** I can't do anything for the rest of the fight Even then it should of been a draw
whenever money is involved cheating wont be far behind, it happens in every sport boxings no different