Fantasy Fight Cliches

Mayweather, greatest featherweight/welterweight of all time, right?

I haven't seen it, no. But of the people who did, it's a fairly clear consensus that if LaStarza didn't outright deserve it, he surely could've been given it.

You haven't seen it either. The difference between you and I is that I have witness testimony and you have the official record. It'd be dishonest to regard all of the robbery/gift claims simply because he officially won. In fact, that's why there's something to be discussed

Putting 'numerous' in capitals is very cute but I'm afraid I don't quite get it. Are you insinuating that they investigated or investigate every potentially bad decision?

I assure you that my feelings have never been more hurt :-((

No, they're very clearly different.

His record doesn't come into play, H2H, against fighters he didn't fight. Unless he fought someone that resembles them perhaps.

His stamina will always be in the discussion. Why would you bring up his undefeated record as a reason why you should favour him over Larry Holmes? He never faced a fighter like him.

He beat everyone he faced. He never fought Holmes though. But does his stamina come into play? Absolutely.

 

What? Has Floyd ever been in the same positions as Rocky Marciano? NO. Read that line slower.

BTW Floyds still active

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Of course you don't. You're talking about a fighter you don't even know. They thought his earlier fights were fixes,investigated,handpicked opponents he could fight and he still KO'd them. Handpicked his referees,officials for the fkn LaStarza fight. So a dubious bout? No. Like I said learn ya sh1t.

What his record proves is he "always finds a way to win".. That can't be disputed. The obstacles he went are reflected in his record. The circumstances he was able to triumph in,are almost impossible and will probably will never be repeated.

We're debating always finds a way to win. 49-0 PROVES IT. Dispute? You can't.

 

You're penalizing Mayweather for being too good for his opponents.

He never needed a knockout to win because he never failed to outbox his opponents.

Whenever he was in some early trouble, he adjusted and then beat the fux out of whomever he adjusted against (DLH, Judah, Mosley e.t.c)

So what's the difference? He's always found a way to win, he just never required a knockout to do it.

That primary source of yours would be nice, please.

I've given you mine. All you've done is rant about how Marciano was looked down upon and cling to the official record while not even questioning whether it could be possible that LaStarza deserved the nod in a close fight.

He knocked out LaStarza in the rematch. There's no issue of who is the greater fighter. So why are you being so defensive about the possibility that someone might have edged him on one of those 49 nights?

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Right, hyperbole time.

Marciano Vs. Godzilla

Does Marciano always find a way to win when he is met with an obstacle he never had to deal with before (scales and an exoskeleton)?

The predictable thing to do here is dismiss this out of hand since it is admittedly a hyperbole, there's a point here however. I'm hoping you surprise me and admit that Marciano didn't have to deal with the likes of Muhammad Ali or George Foreman or indeed anything quite like them.

So what does his record mean against Godzilla when he hasn't fought something resembling 'him'?

What does 'always found a way to win' mean now? I'm not saying he definitely loses, I'm saying his record doesn't mean anything when you're putting him against something not on his record.

What his record does show, that is still relevant, is power, resourcefulness, stamina and heart. Not invulnerability to loss when met with monsters (I'm talking about fellow heavyweight ATGs this time)

 

He didn't even fight Pacquaio because of "health issues". Couldn't overcome them so he doesn't fight him and was sued by the fighter for making claims he couldn't back up.

Couldn't overcome Pacquaio could he?

Nice argument.

Try read a book or doing more own research. You'll find numerous sources. I don't wanna waste my time when you don't know what you're talking about.

Godzilla isn't even a boxer. Your other two arguments i'll presume you didn't know that and you most likely read it somewhere.

Always found a way to win means exactly that. How many boxers have outcome what he has to win? 0. If you can't compare him to anything the reason would be no other fighter has always found a way to win. BTW why are you asking for the meaning? You've just stated you don't know what you're talking about,

No his record doesn't show that. Watching him fight shows thats. His record shows he beat every name out there unlike Mayweather and remain undefeated because he always found a way to win.

 

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4 tried, 4 failed.

 

one of the dumbest comments that i did read here ever.

 

It's FACT.

 

44-0, Dispute it? YOU CAN'T!

Now go ahead and add more criteria to suit your means.

I wish I had a quaint little song about the burden of proof. But I don't

Burden of proof is on you to provide sources and back up your assertions like I did. Otherwise you might just look like you're repeating talking points.

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Hyperbole as an argument device. You should look into that.

Presumptions are the father of all ****-ups.

Goodness me, it's been fun. But I think I'll end it here.

I've attempted to make you accidentally use some critical thought or actual debating protocols, but you can't even do that right.

:hi:

 

Looks like Godzilla always found a way to win.

Now we're in a paradox.

 

It can be disputed just like Deontay Wilder record can be disputed. Mayweather never fought the best of his era.

You said Marciano may have done something to deceitful to win. Can you provide a source for that? Or are you just making this up. That shows the person I'm dealing with.

Yes but Gozilla isn't a human.

Like saying Marciano did something mischievous to win his fight with LaStarza?

You really are a tool

You're running away and come up with things that aren't even true,like I pointed out earlier. Keep thinking you're right.

Before you go just answer this question. what does "always find a way to win" mean too you?

 

Get lost liar.

 

I'm addressing this part alone just because I never said it.

You actually thought I was serious about Marciano sneaking over to the judges table and changing the scores?

That's... That's hilarious...

No. That was sarcasm. The entire point of that line of argument was that he received the benefit of the doubt in a decision that could've gone either way. Hardly finding a way to win.

That's totally different from him cheating or doing anything dishonest. Marciano isn't being victimized here, it's just the fragile temperament of a fanboy showing up as paranoia.

Apologies but 'the sieve is full' and I am going to look for more interesting things to do.

 

What you said wasn't sarcasm. You were trying to say Marciano "mafia" buddies had something to do with it.

You still haven't refuted my Mayweather never fighting the greatest fighter of his era??? Or answered my question.

 

Marciano didn't have mafia buddies because he wasn't a criminal. In fact, I recall he told the mafia to stick it.

Found something more interesting though.

Marciano Vs. Godzilla at a catchweight.

Both always found a way to win.

No fire breathing stipulated in the contract.

Who wins?

 

Just answer my questions