The Transnational Boxing Rankings

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Dec 13, 2012.


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  1. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    That part is fine. Wlad can't be champ unless he beats Vitali. I don't understand why the ww champ is vacant though. Considering #1 has beat #2 already.
     
    canucks9314, May 27, 2013
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    P4P Adjustment
    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Andre Ward
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Sergio Martinez
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Carl Froch
    7. Wlad Klitschko
    8. Abner Mares
    9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    10. Nonito Donaire
     
    McGrain, May 30, 2013
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a nightmare scenario really - they met before they were #1 and #2.

    What i'll say about the vacant champions is that it's difficult to become TBR Kingpin, but it's difficult to lose that title too - in other words, when the majority of divisions have titlists in a few years time things will be less difficult and the fact that so and so or such and such wasn't champ will be forgotten by all but a few that are interested in that kind of thing.
     
    McGrain, May 30, 2013
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  4. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Ok cool I get it. How are you gonna deal with this Floyd-Canelo situation though? Its another nightmare scenario since Canelo is the champ and floyd is the number 1 contender but they arent fighting at the jmw limit. So does the winner become champ or does Canelo keep his tiyle regardless of result?
     
    canucks9314, May 30, 2013
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This fight crowns a champion at 154 - the belt is currently vacant.
     
    McGrain, May 30, 2013
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  6. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Personally I have Mares and Rigo above froch and Wlad
     
    JASPER, May 30, 2013
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  7. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Bradley beats Marquez, will he be ranked P4P?
     
    VG_Addict, May 30, 2013
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  8. gobblock

    gobblock Boxing Addict banned

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    Froch ahead of Wlad P4P...

    :patsch
     
    gobblock, May 30, 2013
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  9. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's because they feel Froch has fought/beaten better competition than Wlad.
     
    VG_Addict, May 31, 2013
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  10. BremnerBomber

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    I wouldn't have Martinez so high after that performance versus Murray
     
    BremnerBomber, May 31, 2013
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  11. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Excellent rankings, pretty much spot on imo! Certainly much better than the RING's and Boxrec's efforts.
     
    Boxalot, May 31, 2013
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  12. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    #6 is too high for Froch. I'd put him behind everyone else in the top 10.
     
    qwert, May 31, 2013
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  13. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Froch @ #6 P4P is utterly disgraceful
     
    SouthpawJab, May 31, 2013
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  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a little harsh, Southpaw. But it demonstrates the problem with these things. One fan's second-rater is another fan's hero. What can yah do?

    Personally, I thought Froch should stay put at #8 -he beat a top 20 guy most figured he'd beat anyway, and the lower end of the P4P List just feels more right for Froch. I and some others were outvoted though.

    A good thing, though, is that quality of competition is a big factor. And that's why Froch got a lift -he's not pretty on the eyes (and trying to find an action shot where his form is right is a serious challenge!), but he is boxing's best overachiever.
     
    Stonehands89, May 31, 2013
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  15. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    Quality of competition?
    He's lost to Kessler,Ward, and should have lost to Dirrell. He needed a miracle comeback to beat Taylor. In between those, he's won decisions against old ass Glen Johnson, Arthur Abraham(who is everyone's ***** at 168), and KO'd Bute..The Bute KO is impressive, but Bute himself wasn't anywhere near top 10. He's getting a lot of credit for facing elite competition, when he's losing to that elite competition. Just 3 fights ago, he lost every round of a fight. That's not P4P
     
    SouthpawJab, Jun 1, 2013
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