Who is more important to boxing history. Wladimir Klitschko or Floyd Mayweather Jr

Shut up Kroutwindsor

 

Wtf are you talking about ?

 

you're missing a comma. unless you think Wlad is a "Brittard"?

you were talking about Deno weren't you? he's not a "Brittard" either... he's an Americunt. just like you. :good

 

are you serious

 

what is it about Americunts and the word "Homo"? you really like your men over there don't you.

just give in to your desires and get it over with. you like the ****. don't deny yourself any longer. :good

 

klitschkos will be just as remembered as joe calzaghe.

 

Depends purely on how much weight one puts on the heavyweight crown. If all were equal, it'd be Mayweather. But history tends to reward heavyweights more.

If it's a heavyweight driven sport, then what Wlad's done could be seen as being more important historically because he's the first long reigning foreign heavyweight champ in history. There's been the occasional foreign champ from time to time, but none that was ever really viewed as anything more than a temporary placeholder until an American got the title back.

Lennox was the first foreign fighter to crack U.S. dominance of the division in a meaningful way and started the job, but he didn't have the longevity as champion Wlad has. Wlad took not only the titles, but the spotlight away from the heavyweight division from the U.S. to Germany. That's something that even 10 years ago would've been laughed at had someone predicted it. That he's part of the only set of brothers that will ever become heavyweight champions in our lifetime is rarely mentioned, but worth noting regardless.

So, if we're talking greater in a P4P sense in ring, I'd vote Mayweather. In terms of real world boxing historical significance, there's a much stronger argument for Wlad. Why? Because history loves heavyweights, and he represents a shift from the power structure of the sport's premier division that's been in place for well over 100 years.

 

So with this logic you also think Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, etc. would be forgotten over Wlad because they are in lighter weights?

You are delusional.

 

lol

 

You don't genuinely believe that boxing history doesn't give more attention to heavyweights, do you?

Willie Pep was superior to Marciano. Sweet Pea was better than Tyson and Holyfield. Benny Leonard was better than Dempsey and Jack Johnson. Sugar Ray Robinson was better than Joe Louis.

Every single one of the lighter guys would rate higher on a P4P list than their heavyweight counterparts, but in each case, history gives more attention to the heavyweight.

Fair or not, that's just how it goes. Sometimes it's because of out of the ring significance, sometimes it's for marketability. Regardless of precisely why, it is what it is.

 

Wladmir got spit in the face and licked up the residue. Floyd is a G, so this is an easy question.

 

You've persuaded me- Wlad was clearly the most important fighter. I had always thought Wlad just shifted the heavyweight scene, but as you astutely pointed out, he killed it. I never realized how much I underestimated his impact.

You see, with Lennox, there was always another top American heavyweight ready to take him on. Fans were excited, contenders were excited. They lined up to take their shot. Lennox couldn't even find time to face them all, like the man Ike beat in 1999, but he had no problem finding and fighting top warriors.

Not so with Wlad. The picture you've brilliantly painted of Wlad is less of a title reign and more of a reign of terror. Instead of stepping up to the plate for the most prestigious crown in combat sports as is custom, American boxers took their 100 years of heavyweight glory and simply went home once Wlad took over. The domestic heavyweight scene immediately transformed into something from Scar's reign from the Lion King. Your prudent prediction recognizes that U.S. interest will indeed come back, that we'll control the scene again by 2020 once Wlad the Impaler retires and his heavyweight reign of terror ends.

No man, foreign or domestic, has ever brought the division to it's knees like this. Rather than risk the punishment of uprising now, our heavyweight hopes have to bide their time and hope themselves that Father Time can do what they dare not try to. And then we'll get our champions back.

Well said, my friend. Well said. :good :happy

 

what elite american fighter are you talking about?

Shot to **** tyson and hoyfield, the same holyfield who went on next to lose to Byrd?

beat americans when americans still cared?...really? shot to **** tyson who came for a payday and a 38yer old Holyfield?
wtf are you talking about ****** noob?!!