Mayweather and Alvarez Gameplans According to THEM or THEIR CAMPS

I did'nt like Canelo's work activity against Trout, but you could see that Trout southpaw stance was a major contributor.

Canelo was having problems finding the right angles against the southpaw stance of Trout.
An encouraging thing about watching that is that Canelo did'nt lose his head and found a way to pile up enough points to get through it.
He did'nt panic under a hard circumstance and stayed focus to the task at hand.

 

Like I said still bitter. Floyd weighs in at 151 when he fights at 154. Tells you all you need to know. I dont know why Floyd didnt want to burn the last two pounds. But its clear he could if he wanted. But keep holding on to that delusion it was Floyds size that proved the difference.



As for your analysis on Canelo its silly. Canelo has neither the strength, power, size or workrate of a 154lb Oscar.

As many have said Canelo has lost 4 rounds off of inactivity before this fight even began. Floyd took Cotto into deep waters and there is no reason he cant do the same with a less experienced Canelo.

Seriously going off a fight where most writers had the fight near even against Trout as your barometer of how he's going to do against Floyd? The greatest of this generation?


You're a fool

 

Like I said before the Trout fight, Canelo needs his opponents to stay still in order to let his combinations go. Now he can do this if he gets Floyd on the ropes and we know Floyd likes to stay on the ropes a lot of times to tire his opponents out or to give himself a rest.
With his dad in the corner, idk if he's going to try that strategy. He may just try to tie him up like he did with Guerrero or he'll rope a dope him like Oscar.

Now the thing is whether Floyd elects to stay on the ropes or not, how often is Canelo going to actually get Floyd there? He tried to do it vs Trout the first few rounds, but like I've always said about him, the kids's stamina is too bad for him to be a pressure fighter. Trout had Canelo on the ropes more often than he did.

 

Cotto is'nt a bonafied Juniormiddleweight, and Trout taking and laughing at his punches is the proof.
We allready know off the Trout fights who the bigger stronger 154 pounder his.
Why do you think Mayweather insisted on a catchweight for Canelo but not for Cotto.

"I want Cotto at his best, so no catchweight!"

Not the tune Mayweather sings for Canelo!


I'm not saying Canelo is going to win. I'm saying Canelo is a live bonafide opponent of which Mayweather has not faced since Castillo at 135 lbs!

The only other opponent who I give Mayweather credit against was Hatton, though its somewhat diminished in that the fight was at 147 lbs with Hatton's previous fight being a poor showing against Luis Collazo who had Hatton out on his feet in the final round.

......but at least against Hatton he was going up against an undefeated fighter who could possible trouble him with swarming tactics.

Every fight except the Hatton fight since Castillo, I've looked at it going in as an uncomplcated fight with not much of a challenge for Mayweather.

Thats not how I'm looking of the challenge of Canelo who I think has size and qualities to make Mayweather have to bring out all his tricks, not just a few of them. :yep

 

Like I thought. When Floyd beats Canelo easy. No excuses from you.

 

You're an idiot. Cotto is a better fighter than Guerrero and Floyd opened up on him. He didnt against Guerrero because going in he said that he was going to revert back to his hit and move style he had earlier in his career. Not too mention when he had Guerrero backing up and hurt in the 8th he hurt his hand. Against Ortiz and Cotto he landed some devastating combinations.

Most likely Floyd Sr is going to have Floyd utilize a combination while still being on his toes.

 

Saul better come with endurance if that's his strategy. You can't very well pressure a guy if you get gassed half way through the fight. This kid really don't know what he's getting himself into does he....

 

Great thread so far no nut hugging going on makes for a good read.

Only thing I can add is Mayweather will be evasive as hell and setting traps when he gets caught up.His ring IQ will win this fight but I do have a sneaky feeling we will see Canelo has another level we aint seen before, floyd will bring out the best in him

 

NO! I've said for years I consider Mayweather one of the most talented fighters in boxing history.

Thats proven in the ring though, and Mayweather has gone out of his way not to face up to the best competition, and he has'nt been taking on all styles and sizes.
Mayweather's stock history wise has dropped significantly from my point of veiw because of it. A win over Canelo does not change that, but it does put a nice feather in his cap that he beat a young, capable, talented fighter like Canelo.

I lean slightly toward Mayweather to beat Canelo, the difference between me and you is that I want to see it be done, you would be content Mayweather move on to the next hasbeen and fight Khan in London and still talk it up like he's the best since SRR! :nut

You dont call yourself the best by beating guys in hypothetical matchups.
You get in the ring and you beat a Margarito!
You beat a Paul Williams!
You beat a Sergio Martinez when he calls that he'd drop to 154 lbs to match skill!!!
You beat these guys when they're riding high at the top of their games!!!

You ****ing fight the best available not coming up from 2 and 3 ****ing weight divsions south!!!!

 

:bbb

 

So just a "nice" feather in his cap. :rofl


Like I said, its no use for Floyd to get respect from idiots like you. Its always some excuse



36 years old, 20+ championship fights, 5 division champion, facing a guy who is going to outweigh him by 20lbs and the best you can say is "nice feather in his cap"



Margarito?



**** off

 

I must say between the rivalries we have between *******s, britturds, eastern euros, I must say the mexicans are my favorite rival fanbase :good

 

:good:rasta:bbb
Thats proven in the ring though, and Mayweather has gone out of his way not to face up to the best competition, and he has'nt been taking on all styles and sizes.
Mayweather's stock history wise has dropped significantly from my point of veiw because of it. A win over Canelo does not change that, but it does put a nice feather in his cap that he beat a young, capable, talented fighter like Canelo.

I lean slightly toward Mayweather to beat Canelo, the difference between me and you is that I want to see it be done, you would be content Mayweather move on to the next hasbeen and fight Khan in London and still talk it up like he's the best since SRR! :nut

You dont call yourself the best by beating guys in hypothetical matchups.
You get in the ring and you beat a Margarito!
You beat a Paul Williams!
You beat a Sergio Martinez when he calls that he'd drop to 154 lbs to match skill!!!
You beat these guys when they're riding high at the top of their games!!!

You ****ing fight the best available not coming up from 2 and 3 ****ing weight divsions south!!!![/QUOTE]

 

Mayweather will bend canelo in half.
No comparing the 2 individuals as boxers!
1 has seen it been there and done it, whilst canelo can only dream of having a career like floyd. Great fight though for boxing in general, it's going to be some night.