Ray Leonard is just as much fun to watch as Mayweather.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC, Jun 2, 2013.


  1. Theron

    Theron Boxing Addict banned

    6,597
    34
    Sep 2, 2012
    Leonard does... No MVC just no
     
  2. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

    12,389
    7
    Mar 5, 2012
    Yes in his 147 days.

    Similar to Mayweather in the 130 days. Mayweather was also a very high action packed fighter in his early days. But they became thinkers mid-late in their careers.
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

    31,381
    1,133
    Oct 17, 2009
    Yeah, their amount of accomplishments at either weight really compare to each other :lol:

    Stop trying to pick up the pieces MVC, you're making yourself look even more foolish.
     
  4. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

    12,389
    7
    Mar 5, 2012
    Yes because I'm talking about accomplishments. :patsch

    ******. You really have to learn to read. Your ability to decode information is astounding.

    I'm talking about their mentality at those weights and how they fought.
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

    31,381
    1,133
    Oct 17, 2009
    But your overall thread is comparing their identities. "Neither is an all action fighter." What ****ing sense does it make to compare Leonard's run at 147, his most important, to Floyd's at 130? The better part of Floyd's career has been a cautious style, while Leonard's most memorable fights, at 147, involved a lot more action.

    The comparison fails on so many levels. Get over it.
     
  6. Medicine

    Medicine Boxing Addict banned

    4,277
    4
    Dec 6, 2008
    Ray was fun to watch.

    The XFL was more exciting than Mayweather.
     
  7. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

    12,389
    7
    Mar 5, 2012
    Except it doesn't because all you're saying is how destructive Leonard was even though he was only that destructive at one stage of his career and not the overall portion of it. The good part of his career, he was a thinker. Someone who wore down their opponents. Fighting offensively in SPURTS, very similar to Mr.Mayweather.

    Someone who adjusted very well and did what it took to win fights. Outpointing opponents, wearing them down with his mental game.

    Similar to Mayweather at 130.

    HE was destructive at 130 towards 135. 140 (Gatti fight) but not throughout his career.

    Leonard/Floyd became chess players towards the end of their careers.

    Get over it already. Your Ray Leonard nuthuggery is ridiculous.
     
  8. melo9100

    melo9100 Active Member Full Member

    1,319
    41
    Feb 23, 2010
    Not really. Your the one who sounds dumb. Who could Floyd Have fought at 130 to rival Leonard's accomplishments at 147? But I agree, and disagree that they fight similarly. Ray was more of a classic boxer-puncher throughout his whole career. Floyd fought that way at the lower weights, but as he got older his game evolved. Its to the point where Floyd doesn't have a style. He does whatever it Takes to win. The variation in Floyd's game is special. For you to say Lenonard is a better BOXER than Floyd is ridiculous. Floyd is obviously the more skilled guy. Leonard's power is what makes the difference for him. In the Benitez, and definitely the Hearns fight. If Floyd Had Leonard's power he would KO everybody inside 8.
     
  9. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,744
    975
    Feb 5, 2009
    Leonard was more offensive minded; he would throw flashy combinations/flurries where even if only 1 out of every 5 connected they still impressed the fans/judges.

    They look a lot more similar when Floyd was in the lower weights and exhibited his combination punching a lot more often than he has at 147 and 54. Also I think Floyd is the superior defensive fighter.

    Both very exciting fighters to watch in their own ways.
     
  10. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,900
    4
    Dec 27, 2010
    :lol:
     
  11. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

    3,967
    1,061
    Dec 1, 2012
    I don't think MVC was comparing styles, just the overall mindset of each fighter. Ray's stick and move style, referred to as "classical boxing", really is outdated. None of the top fighters of the past 10-15 years have used it to the point that they are identifiable with it.

    Ray provided more action because he hit harder, simple as that. When Floyd is able to hurt his opponent, he does have a killer instinct. Problem is, his power never carried up with him.

    In my humble opinion, when Floyd was at 130, he was comparable to Ray Leonard at 147 in terms of overall ability and effectiveness.
     
  12. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

    8,929
    39
    Jul 21, 2004
    I don't know, Leonard was in 2 fight of the year and also several exciting fights. He's also scored a lot of eye opening KO's.

    I don't think we can compare the two.

    Unless defensive slickness is your cup of tea.
     
  13. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,192
    6
    Oct 18, 2011
    Have you actually watched the Kalule fight MVC? Right through?
    Seriously?
     
  14. MVC

    MVC Boxing Junkie banned

    12,389
    7
    Mar 5, 2012
    So.. was Mayweather

    Gatti
    Corrales
    Hernandez
    Hatton
    Cotto
    Ortiz
    Etc etc etc
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

    31,381
    1,133
    Oct 17, 2009
    130 doesn't define Floyd's overall style. 147 does Leonard.

    It's not obvious Floyd is more skilled because he never matched wits with someone with comparable physical advantages and ring iq like Benitez or Hearns at any weight. Floyd focuses more on his defense, but skills are are broad category.

    And btw, Leonard was both destructive and intelligent at 147. He outboxed Benitez for most of the fight, then stopped him. In his early 20's before even facing Duran the first time.

    It has nothing to do with nuthuggery, your comparisons are **** and meaningless.

    :lol:

    Obviously not.