how can you have Calzaghe winning the BHop fight yet have Trout losing to Canelo ?

professional boxing is not the same as amateurs. canelo rocked trout several times and knocked him down, he deserved the win.

 

Poll after poll after poll after poll after ****ing poll.

People who score the fight for Hopkins are morons. I'm sorry. How on Earth can you give Hopkins that fight when he literally did nothing for about 7 rounds? It was a close fight, no doubt. But just because you see "split decision" does not mean Hopkins should have won. Let's not rewrite history here. Outside of knocking Calzaghe down, he maybe won another 3-4 rounds. Calzaghe was the clear winner.


Hopkins fans are bitter because he made himself look stupid with the comments before the fight.

 

Calzaghe did not look good beating BHop, but with the exception of the first round, he was able to walk through BHop's few punches and make life harder on Hopkins than Hopkins did on him with his sheer workrate though he landed few clean shots. Hopkins visibly appeared to be wilting at times and Calzaghe dictated the fight after the early rounds.

Alvarez did more work than Hopkins by a solid clip and his work had an obvious effect on Trout, though Trout landed more clean shots than Calzaghe by far. Personally I thought Trout won the fight, but it could have gone either way, and unsurprisingly Canelo got the nod as the money fighter. Unless he shows dramatic improvement or Floyd slips a lot though, Floyd will take a wide decision win against him in easy fashion.

 

Well, for starters, that's a horrible analogy stylistically.

Trout is nothing like Calzaghe and Alvarez nothing like Hopkins.

Furthermore, boxing is never that black and white that it's reducible to "if you scored match A for Boxer X on work rate, you have to score match B for Boxer Y because his work rate was higher". There are usually a lot more nuances involved.

Uh, WBC? Nothing strange about that whatsoever. It would've been weird to not have open scoring in a WBC title bout.

There were lots of close, pick what you like rounds. Personally I had it 76-75 Alvarez through eight (and 38-38 level through four). I don't remember them announcing the open scoring during the 9th on the broadcast - where did you get two judges having it a shutout through eight? Christodoulou and Shellenberger?

I had it 114-113 Trout but didn't mind Alvarez taking it. Certainly 118-109 was too wide, and probably even 116-111.

Well yeah but that always happens. Every generation has manufactured stars - it's the ones who endure and gain lasting respect by living up to all the hoopla that become legends. It remains to be seen if Alvarez can or will do. Shocking Mayweather would be quite a shortcut towards it. (but losing to him now won't derail his eventual chances)

Agree, but...

I don't see how they correlate. :?

 

Hopkins lost to Calzaghe, yes it was close but still a clear win for Calzaghe. I had Trout beating Alvarez but it was close too so can't really argue with anyone scoring it for Alvarez.

 

What do Canelo and Calzaghe both have in common? There's your answer

 

I had Hopkins and trout winning fairly easy. Canelo won one of the first 5 rounds, round 7 because he dropped him even though trout beat his ass that round, and he ran after gassing in the 7th. Maybe canelo won one round after the 7th. Camelids dad and brother had looks of concern on their faces until the open scores were announced.

Hopkins schooled calzaghie. I can count on 2 hands how many clean punches landed through the 1st 7 rounds. Calzaghie a pace slowed Hopkins and he won a few rounds after 7 but I've never seen calzaghie as frustrated in a fight ever. The altercation with his dad after round 11 is a true classic. Dad, what the f$&@ are you doing out there? Joe, he's cheating!!! Dad, I don't care! You need a ko!!! Lmao!!! A true masterpiece by Hopkins.

 

Oh be quiet, Calzaghe beat Hopkins in an ugly fight, If Hopkins had actually fought like a man he would have got stopped.

 

You must not be a fan of canelo. He gasses out and flat out runs!

 

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Both Hopkins and Canelo were inactive.
The difference is that Canelo chose big portions of rounds in which to actually throw leather.
Hopkins chose to land 1 or 2 clean shots in a round and stop it at that.

Hopkins was clearly shy to let his hands fly in the midst of Calzaghes flurries, thus he lost every one of those rounds clearly on my card.

Canelo was slipping and sliding, pumping a hard jab, and landing the occasional straight right that was stunning Trout.

The rounds where Canelo completely took off and did nothing for the major portion of the 3 minutes as Hopkins did vs Calzaghe, I gave to Trout.

Canelo-Trout was a one point fight either way. Canelo imo deserving it because his shots did damage.

Calzaghe-Hopkins was easy to score. You dont fight, you dont win rounds.
Simple as. Same reason why Hopkins lost both fights with Jermaine Taylor.

Hopkins cant handle speed. You purist cant admit to it.

 

Hopkins got hit less then canelo and landed a lot more clean shots.