if fighters can't be taught hand speed 'n punching power...

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ...can they be taught how ta become champions?...'n what are those qualities?
     
  2. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We couldn't disagree more about punching power, U
     
  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Physical strength and punching power are not mutual. Your boxing technique has a lot to do with KO power.
     
  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On the money, l
     
  5. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you can increase your punching power from the right strength and conditioning regime, technique, and balance. Plus plausibly, a trainer could teach a fighter how to generate more of their power mentally by making them throw with more intent
     
  6. silly_illy

    silly_illy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i will teach you punching power......follow these instructions carefully.......1-put a horse shoe in your boxing glove........hopefully you will score some knockouts now!
     
  7. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ain't so, sadly, R...It's what fighters 'n trainers would like ta believe,but all the king's horses 'n all the king's men won't help.
     
  8. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know for fact since I have done it myself and helped others do it that you can :yep
    Improve your balance, you have a more solid base and can transfer more energy into your punch.
    Learn the right technique to pivot your foot, snap with your shoulder, turn your fist over, etc and you'll punch harder.
    Then if you do drills like medicine ball throws, deadlifts, squats, plyometrics, etc, you will increase your power.

    You can't turn Paulie M into Mike Tyson, but you can improve what you got
     
  9. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If that regime increases YOUR confidence 'n the fighters you train, great, R. But in my near 70 years 'round the game, I haven't seen one example (please, not the tired Tommy Hearns from light-hitting boxer-to-monster puncher rubbish. Tommy was always knocking down buildings in Kronk gym wars. Emmanuel Steward wanted him to stick 'n move -- pile-up points -- as an amateur)

    Ya can teach accuracy and combos but not hand speed 'n punching power; It's either there from day one or it ain't.
     
  10. ben1990

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    I've seen many folks improve punching power and speed as they progress. It's mainly just muscle memory/developing technique that does that though. And guys who are slow don't become roy jones etc. But speed and power do seem to improve a bit through practice... But the improvement is pretty limited.
     
  11. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've never seen even a little improvement in power 'n hand speed, just ring smarts, accuracy 'n combos.
     
  12. kirk

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    I believe so, yes.

    Obviously this is all within reason.

    Boxing is a sport based heavily on physical attributes. If you are completely talentless, then you probably wont reign as a world champ someday.

    But I think fighters with modest speed, and modest power, can still become champions.

    Look at Andre Ward. He is not a speedster. He has some speed, yes.... but hes hardly a fast fighter. His power is nothing to note either. Not to mention his chin probably isn't iron (as in, hes probably not one of those durable fighters that can win while soaking up punishment)

    But, because of his IQ, he is one of the best in the world today.



    Idk, just imo.
     
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    ???? Achieving the best force and velocity is a type of technique. Of course good physical conditioning is required but only to a certain point. To much muscle becomes a liability in boxing.
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the power ya either got or ya don't. When Rocky Graziano walked in ta Stiilmans Gym the first day, without any training, he flattened good pros with his dynamite right in seconds; the way he'd done it on street corners for years.

    He jumped outta the ring 'n went to the track with Willie Pep.
     
  15. john garfield

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    In English, U, does that mean a fighter can increase his hand speed 'n punching power? All the techno-speak in the world won't help. Flat out, that dog won't hunt.