ODLH: Canelo at 22 has more boxing skills and at 25 years he could of beaten FMJ EASY

Shut the fuk up. You don't know ****. Go watch the fight and tell me why Pernell deserved to win? He was outlanded in power punches and only threw one jab at a time the entire fight. Oscar stunned Pernell atleast 2 times with uppercuts. Pernell didn't do **** to win that fight. Oscar did.

 

Are you ******ed? Floyd barely beat the washed up version of Oscar so how you fukin think he was going to deal with the Oscar that was prime?atsch The only BS oscar is spitting is trying to obviously sell Canelo, but that is his job.

 

Oscar did not win a single fight against an elite opponent in their prime(or close to it) in his career. Unless you consider Vargas elite.

 

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Exactly, if that dighr happened at 147 instead of 154. Mayweather beats Dlh much easier.

 

Truth is, Floyd would have found excuses not to fight prime oscar. Floyd was scared of Manny and ducked him, and these idiots actually think he's going to go near a prime oscar with one of the best jabs and left hooks both up and downstairs in the entire sport. And possesed just as much speed as floyd used to have, but with a better chin? atsch Oscar wasn''t fighting no untested or shot fighters either. And you can fuk off that Chavez was shot. He was coming off a a couple quick KOs of other opponents and only lost 1 SD to Randall a couple years earlier. The fight prior to Oscar Chavez destroyed Scott walker inside 2 rounds to retain his title.

 

Sure he did, he beat Hernandez, Quartey, Whitaker, Trinidad and Mosley in the 2nd fight.
Hernandez later fought Floyd and Floyd claims this was his best victory. An Oscar left over.

 

ROFL. Dance around for 12 rounds... Even in his best boxing performance, he didn't dance around for 12 rounds. DLH did have the best stamina, I don't care what anyone says, the tape does not lie. This does not mean he didn't have the heart to dig deep when he needed to, as he clearly did. He does fade later in the fight though, it happens.

He still had the ability to move at 154, he just fought the wrong game plan against FMJ. You guys act like it is easy to fight Mayweather or something, or easy to draw up a plan to beat him. Oscars career at 154 was really spectacular... he didn't lose that 2nd Mosley fight and outboxed him when Mosley was extremely roided up. So he pretty much went undefeated at 154 fighting the best at the division, even tried to make a fight with Wright, but Wright didn't like the amount of money that was being thrown his way, which was dumb. Mayweather fought him at 154, a weight that he has no business at and has never looked good, and Oscar made sure to have the ring as small as he could get it.

 

Hernandez, to his defense, had an injury entering into the fight with Oscar, he had an hand injury... so he was not 100% and he was moving up in weight to LW (and oscar was huge at 135)... when he was Jr Lightweight Champ, AND undefeated... after the Oscar fight he went back to his natural and best weight, and went on to remain undefeated at that weight fighting great opposition (6 fights) until he loss to Mayweather, it was Mayweather's 17th pro fight... Larry Merchant and other boxing writers thought Mayweather's team was rushing him too fast, because at 130 Hernandez was that good. So Oscars victory over Hernandez has these issues... its the same type of issues that people have with Mayweather's victory over Hatton and Marquez... only difference being, Hatton had fought at 147 before the fight with Mayweather, and Marquez has gone on to outbox Pac at 147 and then further to KTFO pac at 147. Hernandez shouldve never fought the fight with Oscar, but it was Oscar and you don't turn down that type of money.

If you are going to be a unreasonable hater, at least don't be a hypocrite. Mayweather's victory over Hernandez dwarfs Oscars by an considerable amount.

 

Making exuses now are we?
His nose was broke by Oscar, yes and he quit on his stool, because his nose was broke, not because his hand was hurt. Oscar was beating him to the punch, was too fast and too powerful for him. I don't remember him saying his hands were hurting, I remember him saying something about his nose being broke though.
As for the coming up in weight, Hernandez looked bigger than oscar did. lol and he was an inch taller.
You gotta be delusional if you think this wasn't Hernandez's biggest loss. The man was undefeated! The HBO crew said they were in shock that he quit considering he was undefeated and in his PRIME. Come on man, get real. Also add, these guys wanted each other for sometime and were rivals, and Genaro was the betting favorite if memory serves, he was supposed to be the one to stop Oscar.

 

Didn't he also say Guerrero was better than him? Oscar is one of my faves but damn he says anything to promote a fight.

 

So... are you suggesting that Oscar beat the best Hernandez, who had never fought at 135, was a career 130 lb fighter, who was undefeated at 130 for years and after losing to a fighter at 135 who was huge at the weight, goes back to his ordinary weight class to be as dominate as he had been prior, which he was undefeated at the weight??? Are you suggesting that weight classes do not matter???

It doesn't mean anything if Hernandez was the betting favorite, he was fighting out of his best weight -- Oscars win over Hernandez would mean far more if he beat him at his natural weight. A favorite is just an opinion based on past knowledge, but there is nothing in the past of Hernandez career which showed that he would perform his best at 135 as he had never FOUGHT at 135 before. Some fighters do not transition as well to higher weight divisions as others. Now it would be different if Hernandez had shown he could handle the 135 lb division, by going on to fight more and won titles. But this did not happen, he immediately went back to 130, because he was not his best at 135. It's the same thing that happened with Hatton, Mayweather beat him out of his best division, so it takes away from the victory, but Hatton was not very good anyways, so it doesn't even matter. Now if the fight was at a catch weight, it would mean more... but Oscar had every advantage, and having a WW frame at LW didn't hurt.

 

The fight was close only if you hate Floyd, love Oscar, are blind or incompetent. DLH wo 3 rounds, 4 if I wanted to be generous. This was not a close fight regardless of what the judges saw.

 

Hernandez is almost 6 feet tall, 5lbs to his frame is very irrelevant, especially considering he was still just as shredded. The main problem, is that he ran into Oscar De La Hoya and was never going to beat him because oscar was simply the better fighter. He yearned to destroy Oscar and hated him and was thought by most experts that he would be the man to finally beat Oscar. He was more motivated for this fight than any other and you can take that to the bank. Unfortunately for him, Oscar was a monster in his prime, who hit like a heavyweight. I remember that fight and I thought Oscar was going to lose the way the fight was being played up and Oscar the underdog. Hernadez was the real deal and nobody was claiming this small weight difference would have any impact on the fight. Besides, Genaro looked bigger than Oscar in the ring!

 

Emmanueal steward loved Floyd then and he even admitted Floyd was losing at around the 7th round. It took Oscar gassing a bit for Floyd to pull ahead on the scorecards in the 8th or 9th round. I believe 1-2 judges had Oscar winning the 12th round also, because Floyd finally decided to trade with 5 seconds left and finally stopped running and Oscar landed a couple drained left hooks.
Oscar won 4-5 rounds of that fight, and some of the rounds I gave Floyd were pretty damn close and could have been given to oscar for his aggression and work rate.
At the time, I was a fan of both fighters. I saw Oscar winning the first half, and Floyd winning the second half. 115-113 was fair. Oscar considering he was pretty much washed up, gave Floyd a hell of a fight and had to stick his neck out to force a fight that wouldn't have happened otherwise and would have been a snoozefest. Oscar tried to make it exciting at least.

 

Big risk, small reward doesn't translate to I don't think I can beat him, in any way, shape, or form!