if fighters can't be taught hand speed 'n punching power...

JG, the only thing I can think of (on the other side) is a novice or an amateur who does not know how to throw a proper punch can be taught to generate the maximum power in their punches with the proper instruction. However, either you have that potential or you do not. You are born heavy handed or you are not. it is nature not nurture that is the main factor. If Nurture was the key every fighter would be a killer, being able to KO each other with one punch with lightening fast hands. Since that is not the case, it only supports our (correct) side.

 

Do I believe it? Fo sho my bro. We're not like the animal kingdom where only the strong survive and were programmed to do the samething over and over we have science on our side . The fighters that FAIL to recognize their weakness or weaknesses will be recognized and exposed by an opponent that will. As for punching power, Hearns and Trinidad were NOT powerpunchers in the ams. In their case, as their body gained muscle and weight, they were taught to get the most power out of them in the pros. Also don't forget fighters like Jmm and Floyd are elite counterpunchers that can amplify the effect of their punch as they lure fighters forward or in. So tho they may not be the biggest punchers their punches are so clean and precise they can have devastating effect. It's like anything you keep working at you can become better at it.

 

There's no wound JG, just knowledge backed up by first hand experience

 

I helped a kid win his first golden gloves and an mma fighter his first victory it's all good. :good Military push-ups and shadow boxing with some pulleys or even aerobic weights for 3 3 minute rounds and then try shadow boxing another 3 rounds without them you'll feel the difference bro. Kinda like jogging with leg weights for awhile then you takem off you feel like a grasshoppa.

 

A young man walks into a gym and puts on a pair of gloves for the very first time. Is he punching as hard as he ever will, that first day? No, of course not. Maybe he has no idea how to throw a punch even remotely effectively, and needs to be shown how.

But once - after a very short time - he has the basics down, you will soon be able to tell, if he's a big puncher or not. If he is, lucky him!

Now if he's not starting out as a big puncher, would it not be reasonable to think, that with a knowledgable coach, proper training, hundreds of hours of practice... we would be able to turn this young man into a heavy puncher too? I mean, in all other sports, the more you train a certain thing, the better you get at it. So it ought to be possible to take a young man who starts out as a non-puncher, and turn him into a puncher. Or, at the very least, considerably improve this part of his game. To claim otherwise seems silly, right?

Therefore, I understand why some posters have a hard time accepting, what JG is trying to say here. However, even though he can come up with no logical explanation, a lifetime of studying boxing and boxers has taught him, that punchers are born, not made... and that not all the training in the world will make you a heavy hitter, if you haven't shown this ability right from the start. I know, this may sound like nonsense to some - but that's just the way it is!

As for better technique improving punching power... take a look at Ingemar Johansson! The way he throws that right looks all wrong, doesn't it? Strictly an arm punch, with no body behind it - or so it would seem! So how come he was knocking good boxers senseless with that punch? Or how about Herbie Hide - another "arm puncher", who was a devastating hitter. How were these guys able to get so much power behind their punches with - seemingly - bad technique? And how come thousands and thousands of clever, featherfisted boxers over the years haven't been able to train themselves to be big (or even fair) punchers? Simply because there's no "right" or "wrong" technique you can train to become a better puncher. If you have that ko-punch right from the start, great. If not... sorry, you will never get it!

 

Na I never give cred to myself JG I give them cred for picking up the basics I showed them. I pointed out their weaknesses, corrected them best I could, but as for know how they still kinda green, but you bet they much better than they were months prior. They still picked up pretty good and you bet because of their improved hand speed and movement they grew in confidence to try out skills they wouldn't do before. These aren't grizzled, seasoned vets slipping and parrying punches they still developing, but some of these kids punching like a full grown man scary to think how'd they hit in the not so distant future, JG.

 

Because one is doubling even triple jabbing where he would only throw one jab before and seems to be one step ahead of his sparring partner. Another, the mma fighter, strong 21 yr old that leaned forward too much now sets eferything up with a jab and finishes with one too sometimes. He was right handed, but had a really squared stance so had my work cut out for me. Did good won a decision.

 

But still you don't seem to understand the simple point.
The simple point is that you can improve your punching power / speed but only acording to you genetic potential.

Respond to the sentence please other then just that I'm wrong.