Rather than niggle over the order, can we all reach unanimity on agreeing that Mayweather has only had a half dozen or so remotely difficult pro bouts? Castillo, Augustus, Chavez, De La Hoya, Corley, Judah and Cotto. We all recognize that nobody has come near these seven opponents (on eight nights) in terms of posing difficulty? - that they stand in a class apart, with far more space between them & the rest than between each other? Please tell me nobody truly believes Shane Mosley deserves mention in that group based on his twenty seconds of dubious success (however dramatic and momentous it seemed while unfolding) against Mayweather. ...or worse, Ortiz. :-( After those seven you have to really dig for who the next trickiest was. It becomes a real stretch at that point. Hatton, Guerrero, Sosa, el Famoso, and Ndou probably make up the next tier down from the Magnificent Seven - and each of those five guys lost in fairly one-sided fashion overall.
How could you have Corely on the list? He arguably lost every round. There were only a few rounds he was even competitive. Castillo, Chavez, Cotto, Augustus, and Hoya are the only guys who pushed Mayweather in the second half of the fight.
Lederman was not the only one, who scored the fight for Castillo. Other commentators scored it for Castillo too and criticized the judges decision. Punch statistic also favored Castillo.
castillo won that fight!! does anyone have any proof mayweather had an injury? every time mayweather does not live up to the hype he claims some sort of injury.
you can score the fight for Castillo if u want, but to go with Lederman's card and say Mayweather only won 4 rounds is asinine. And HBO's commentators never disagree with eachother. They pick an agenda or theme at the beginning of a fight and stick with it all fight. Watch Pacquiao/Marquez III for evidence That's why I liked it when George Foreman would commentate, because even though he'd say some ******ed stuff, he'd always bring objectivity and try not to nuthug the same fighter Merchant and Lampley are riding during the fight
Augustus, Castillo I, De La Hoya. I would add Judah since he did very well in the first couple rounds of their fight, but he got dominated by around the 6th round on pretty handily.
FLoyd-Castillo I wasn't a robbery. people should check out what the definition of a "robbery" is if they think that happened to JLC. It was a 50/50 fight, could've easily been called a draw or a 1-2 point win for either fighter. I personally had it a draw, and I probably would look at FLoyd much differently if he didn't give JLC an immediate rematch, which he did, and dominated him in.
He was awkward throughout regardless of how many times he was on the short end of the 10-9 stick, and Mayweather himself claims he was a severe pain in the ass. He is probably on the back end of the Mag 7, but he is up there. More than guys like Mosley, Guerrero, and Ortiz (even though Mosley took a round or two and Guerrero arguably more - neither of them made the evening as unpleasant overall. Ortiz, meanwhile, got shut out and KTFO so let's just nip that in the bud preemptively before anyone brings his name up...)
I agree with that list. But Carlos Hernandez deserves mention along with those guys too. I think Corley is overrated in this sense. The reason why he seemed tough is because there were two or three close-ish rounds and because Corley hardly flinched despite Floyd throwing some of his more vicious power punches. Carlos Hernandez was a much, much tougher fight than Corley (obviously I didn't fight the fight, but it seems obvious to me). I'd honestly be tempted to say Hatton was tougher than Judah. Judah was one of the easiest fights of Floyds' WW and up days since he barely landed a punch from round 5 onward. Hatton was at least in Floyds' grill and making him put a full body physical effort in until Hatton hit a brick wall of gassing in round 7.