Does making the weight or not make any differance?

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  1. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Garcia didn't seem to be affected by the weight drain last night. The question is does a fighter, in all aspects, is in better condition to perform better without trying to make weight? If the answer is generally yes then the advantage for being bigger in a match really plays a big part in the outcome.

    Peak conditioning versus a larger size over your opponent.
     
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  2. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    if you want your answer, look at RJJ trying to make 175 after jumping up to 193 to face Ruiz, or Dawson draining down to 168 for the first time in 6 years
     
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  3. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both RJJ and Dawson were KO'ed from being drain and weight drain suggest you are not at your peak condition. Yet the trend seems to go with the advantage of being bigger in the match.
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    If what the Garcia camp said was legit , & Garcia had been sick, then the failure to make weight is understandable. He wasn't faking throwing up in that bucket
     
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  5. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It only really affects the fighter if he struggled to make the weight.

    see DLH vs Pac.
     
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  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar made 145 in that fight for whatever reason.
     
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  7. uNF

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    I don't get how people are saying Mikey was drained, he just paid the fine and didn't bother trying to cut down anymore...
     
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  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think if a boxer is coming down drasticly in weight class, it matters. However, now days with the weigh in being the day before and the ability to rehadrate and refuell. I'm not sure if it makes a drifrance if a boxer is a pound or two over.
     
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  9. JoeCamelTow

    JoeCamelTow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you not see weigh-in pics and Garcia trying to puke into that trash can to make the weight.:huh
     
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  10. uNF

    uNF Member Full Member

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    Haven't seen said image(s).

    Heard he was sick though; still can't imagine throwing up is gonna get rid of 1.5lbs though.
     
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  11. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    So stupid. Read where roach said he could see fresh track marks on odlh's arm
     
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  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    RJJ made a major move up(19 pounds) compared to others so the effects were to be expected and he knew it. Fighters moving up 7-8 pounds then down get affected, you should guess what 19+ pounds up then down in a short period of time could do. Please note, and hopefully you do unlike many ******s out there, that 3-4 or 10-20 ahtletic pounds have nothing to do with the average weakling's 2-3 o 10-20 pounds of fastfood ****(literally) a day.
     
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  13. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, only the HW's can come into the ring at any weight and we have seen how some of the HW's look in their peak condition. If the fatty look is what they're satisfied with then the physique of a peak conditioned fighter for the other weight class seems to be different. Guys like Juan Diaz is an exception that comes to mind.
     
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  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    To be honest Juanma wasnt capable of pushing him to the point of it showing

    yes it does
     
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  15. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course it makes a difference. How else would Freddy ****roach make a career out of draining the opposition?
     
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