If Marquez beats Bradley

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  1. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Will he finally be considered greater than Barrera and Morales or is he already there?
     
  2. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    i think he is already greater!
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    He's already greater, and by a considerable distance


    No disrespect to them, but his name should be mentioned with the likes of Chavez, Sanchez and Lopez, not Barrera and Morales.
     
  4. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    let's see....he knocked out the guy that bested both of them. they both avoided him back in the day...jmm is superior now. he doesn't have to beat bradley to be better.
     
  5. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    this.
     
  6. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you rate him then? Behind Chavez, Sanchez and Lopez or above them?
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Cases could be made in any possible direction in this debate.
     
  8. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh how quickly everyone forgets.

    Morales' resume is insane, you all just forgot in favor of the more recent run.
     
  9. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Erik Morales - 52-9/36 KO (3 stoppage losses) age 35 - 20 years - 61 fights

    WBC super bantamweight title - 9 defenses + unified with WBO. vacates
    WBC featherweight title - 2 defenses before losing,
    2nd run - 2 defenses. vacates
    WBC super featherweight title - 1 defense, unifies with IBF before losing
    WBC super lightweight title - loses in first defense

    Noteable wins - Zaragoza, Barrera, Pacquiao, Jones, Kelley
    Noteable losses - Pacquiao 2x, Barrera 2x, Maidana, Garcia 2x
    FOTY candidates against Barrera 3x and Pacquiao
    Controversies - Fails drugs test at 140

    Marco Antonio Barrera - 67-7/44 KO (1 stoppage loss) age 37 - 22 years - 75 fights

    WBO Super Bantamweight title - 8 defenses before losing via DQ
    2nd run - 2 defenses before losing a unification
    3rd run - 2 defenses before vacating
    WBC Featherweight title - vacates
    WBC Superfeatherweight title - unifies IBF but vacates, 4 defenses before losing

    Noteable wins - Morales 2x, Hamed, Tapia, Kelley, Juarez
    Noteable losses - Morales, Pacquiao 2x, Marquez, Khan, Jones
    Controversies - Repeatedly fouled in fights

    Juan Manuel Marquez 55-6/40 KO (0 stoppage losses) age 39 - 20 years - 62 fights

    IBF Super featherweight title - 4 Defenses, Unified with WBA (1 draw)
    WBC Super featherweight title - 1 defense
    WBA/WBO Lightweight titles - 2 defenses. vacates
    WBO Super Lightweight title
    WBO Welterweight title - scheduled

    Noteable wins - Barrera, Pacquiao, Casamayor, Medina, Salido, Juarez, Diaz 2x
    Noteable Losses - Pacquiao 2x, Mayweather, John
    Controversies - Scorecards vs Pacquiao 3

    Marquez is older than both Morales and Barrera and despite not holding as many defenses has won titles in more divisions along with the fact he holds a better record over Pacquiao. Despite now being 39 is still active and still a p4p fighter whilst Barrera last fought in 2011 and Morales was knocked out in 2012

    Marquez > Morales/Barrera
     
  10. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    nice break down.
     
  11. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is already greater than them even before he KO6 Pac!
     
  12. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chavez, Sanchez, Olivares, Saldivar, Lopez then Marquez, He already is in my book.
     
  13. nicamarvin

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    He is Greater... he has been on the P#P top 5 list for years now, when he faced Floyd he was #2 for his amazing performance against Pac.. then after the pac vs Marquez III he was still rank top 5. and now at 40 years old after sending Pac to Plank time he is till top 5... so yeah Marquez is up there with the best mexican fighters of all time....
     
  14. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    Morales and Barrera > Marquez. Easy
     
  15. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    :good