Prime Ali vs Prime Tyson?

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  1. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They sure do, and they are incapable of doing what you suggest. Actually look - LOOK at Ali's comp compared to modern HWs. They're puny :lol:

    But Ali or "golden" era slurpers will ask you "who have the K bros fought"
    ANS - modern HWs that would have mopped the floor w/most of Ali's comp.
    Or "Lewis was ko'd by Rahman and McCall" blah blah. Except for Foreman, Ali never faced punchers like Rahman, McCall, or Sanders (who TKO'd Wald).

    If Joe Frazier and the likes of Ken Norton could give Ali hell, prime Tyson beats Ali. Maybe not easily but I think MT wins - early if he lands one big shot, else grinds Ali down for a late stoppage.
     
  2. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Can Mike really KO Ali? We are talking one punch because an accumulation ko is not happening.

    No. Therefore Ali.
     
  3. Beatle

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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The douglas version of Tyson was not prime. At the time, he was still seen as prime, which made the loss so shocking. But in hindsight, there is no way that Tyson was prime. The Douglas version of Tyson would have gotten KTFO by any pre-Spinks version of Tyson. Rooney was not in his corner anymore, and he had a whole new crew of trainers that didn't know how to manage swelling or anything. Prime Tyson didn't swell at all. Douglas fought a great fight, but prime Tyson would have knocked Douglas TFO. That fight was in Tokyo, Japan, also and Tyson didn't look prepared at all. He didn't have any firepower. He still had "prime power" though, and yeah that uppercut knockdown of Douglas was impressive. But that was just one punch, a punch that Douglas walked right into. Do you really believe that prime Tyson would have taken a "severe beating" from Douglas? Tyson lost every round in that fight besides the round he scored the knock down. How many rounds did Tyson lose before that fight?
     
  5. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You make good points. I guess I mean that Tyson was in the prime of his career, accomplishment wise. Tyson was 24 years old. Undefeated unified heavyweight champ. In the two years before that he had beaten Williams, Bruno, Spinks, and Holmes all by knockout.

    My message was directed at people saying that Tyson would get frustrated and give up. He did that post prime a lot. But when he was in the prime stages of his career, he didn't give up. Even under severe adversity against Douglas. (because he didn't train properly, personal life was off the rails etc.) So I don't see a prime Tyson just folding to Ali.