Joe Fraziers chin

I don't think Frazier's chin was as great as people suggest. He got badly wobbled in, I think, the fourth round against mediocre journeyman Ron Stander. And don't forget, George Foreman bounced him up and down off the canvas like a basketball.

 

Stander may have been no more than a slugging journeyman, Z, but he could crack big time with his left hook; 'n as for Foreman, no show of a brittle chin there, Foreman was an ATG puncher.

 

I'm certainly not saying Frazier's chin was terrible - just not rock solid. He could be hurt, and not just by ATG punchers like Foreman, as the Stander fight demonstrated.

 

Heavy_Hands SuzieQ is one of the biggest morons here. It is a Marciano fan after all so you know the thing doesn't know **** about boxing. Not only was he dropped by Archie Moore who was way past his prime. Archie Moore turned pro at middleweight and stayed there for 10 or so odd years so he was a natural middleweight.

According to news paper clippings Ted Lowry another 180 pound fighter had Marciano hurt badly in their first fight.

Joe Frazier's chin was far superior to Marciano's chin and if you think anything different you are mentally freaking ******ed.

 

Ali also badly staggered him in the second fight and who knows what would have happened if they didn't stop that round early.

 

very gracious, SK

 

Not too long ago, in this forum, there was quite a lengthy thread hailing and proclaiming Ali as a puncher...there was another thread that maintained that Ali was a harder hitter than Holyfield as well. Quite a few posters insisting that Ali was seriously underrated and unsung as a hitter. Well, consider, that if all that were true, then Frazier had to have a pretty good beard on him. In 41 combined rounds of fighting, Joe never was off his feet,....he took eveything the Lip had to dish out. Or maybe Ali wasn't such a good puncher....but gentlemen of the jury, one thing is for sure, and that is you can't have it both ways.

 

You impress me with your dazzling knowledge of boxing as well as your classy, well reasoned style of debating a point.:yep

 

u du hev sam trus in it .
Bat haw du u explain Bonavena and him geting qwait hurt bai Quarry ?
dei wer not rili panchers , les h2h panching abiliti dan Maskaev / Rahman / Kirk Johnson , regardless of yor opinion ebawt dis .

 

Suspect. 6 out of ten on the chin, but 10 out of 10 for heart

 

Lol I am talking to a bunch of white guys about Rocky Maricano. The fact that you are a Marciano fan shows how little you know about boxing. Marciano was only great at being lucky be Italian while the Italian mob controlled boxing. Did he face true heavyweight punches? You mean Cruiserweight Joe Louis and Jersey Joe Walcott. So many true heavyweights would of knocked Marciano in the 1st round it isn't funny.

 

michael bruce

 

Interesting POV, SK. Next time you're on Arthur Ave. in the Bronx, let's sit down at a social club 'n discuss it over Anisette.

 

I think it's pretty clear it's the latter. Ali was never known as a puncher, and for good reason. And while Frazier's chin was decent, it wasn't rock solid. A fighter with a rock solid chin wouldn't get wobbled by Ron Stander.

 

Frazier`s chin seemed a little more vunerable in the early rounds. Once he got warm he was a hard fighter to hurt.