Have boxing skills progressed, or have they regressed?

I think FANS have regressed. As soon as someone loses or has one bad fight, the guy is exposed or is overhyped. Even worse fans nowadays equate KO power with greatness. This started with the Tyson era, never mind that Tyson lost once he started fighting real quality opponents. It's getting really bad.

 

Boxers catch punches with there hands in front of the head. You're a sad excuse for a troll.
Hearns taught Bradley the proper way to jab and throw a right hand..I think Bradley said something a long the lines of "all that goes into a straight right"..

LOL. First of all I guess every fighter can jab? every fighter can land and think as good as the next fighter?. Tyson coudn't fight on the side? fkn bsss. Getting to his fighter like did he requires tremendous ring IQ,speed,technique the lot..

Well so you're saying a person who is not paid to fight for a living has a job? Are you some sort of genius. There was much more money back then so I would guess a lot of fighters trained all day and fought at night.

Lets look at this. Lets use Joe Frazier when he started boxing, his routine was gets up at 5am and jogs 5miles to work, works 10hours,hits the gym at 5 and stays there till 9pm. Pretty much lives in the gym. This was the norm back in the day so yes I'd agree with Loudon. It gets even worse if you go back to early 1900's.

Willie Pep - Offense and defense
Jack Dempsey - Offense and defense
Floyd Patterson - offense
Muhammed Ali - amazing footwork
Joe Louis - offense and defense
Sandy Saddler - Technique

 

:deal

 

Fighters today don't spend 4hours in a gym let alone while working a very physical job?? Not only are they tougher mentally they're tough as nail before they walk into a gym. Dempsey started doing physical manual labor as 9year old kid,train boxing, the guy was hard as nails before. Les Darcy is the hardest man of them all.

 

All these elements have improved markedly over the last 100 years. Just like in every other sport.

 

You're one of the worst posters on here. Never saw a post from you that wasn't garbage.

Tyson couldn't fight inside worth a damn. As soon as someone's forearms appeared near his elbows, he stopped punching. As soon as someone tried to tie him up, Tyson would fall asleep in the ring. The fact that you don't understand that really isn't surprising because you are an idiot.

Jack Dempsey would be a club fighter today, with numerous losses to other club fighters. He would be nowhere near top 10 heavyweight or cruiserweight.

Joe Louis was KO'd in his prime by a slow counterpunching cruiserweight. He was also outboxed over 12 by a middleweight. There is no way that a Wlad or Tyson or Lewis could ever get away with this, and rightfully so.

I could keep going.

 

Like I said, there is far too much tolerance for the old time nutbag in boxing.

 

Hey at least I've taken time to learn about boxing and its history. You're just another clueless poster.

Tyson bob and weave as made to make the opponent miss and deliver shots in and out, Who are you to say he couldn't fight on the inside..He was only tied up when he slowed down so stfu

Louis was KO'd in his prime? 2years into his pro career he hit his prime? Ok. You should really brush up on your history before you make a fool of yourself.

 

An opinion is that. You resort to calls like these because I don't think you have the brain muscle to debate otherwise.

 

Of course there is,He said Louis prime was 2years into his pro career which dismisses that and a former champion who many great past and present fighters have tried to emulate would be a club fighter. The guy is clueless.\

I could also say the fact that Wlad is limited,unable to throw body shots and struggled against smaller men while also being KO'd by bums would not cut it in any other era.

nothing inaccurate about that statement either.

 

Schmeling was his most emotional win because of WW2. Baer was a better win then Schmeling so no that assessment wasn't accurate one bit.

I don't believe it myself but I was just pointing it out. The point remains Rusak is clueless.

 

Congrats, the worst post on ESB ever.:good

 

Thats the most ridiculous argument ive ever heard. You cant teach technique by showing fight dvds. If thats the case i can go down my local boxing gym and train the guys by pressing play on the dvd player.

 

Yet you never seem to put me in my place? How many debates is it now that you quit replying to me?
Everything I have said is completely true.

Max Baer. I am clearly saying Baer was a better win for Louis then Schmeling,nothing more.

 

At the very least, effective techniques wouldn't be magically forgotten, trainers wouldn't just stop training them. None of you nutbags has presented a remotely convincing explanation for why effective techniques would be forgotten.