Are Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank Hall Of Fame Worthy?

Would Roy have got schooled against Roy like Toney did?

 

Well he did fight mostly people with day jobs and needed peds to win.....so if he had no peds then this Dave would have been in with a shout

 

I know they were close fights mate, I'm just spinning things like how he's done.

But the point is, Toney struggled twice with a guy who Roy beat. Which doesn't make any difference, because they were two awesome fighters.

I was just trying to make a point to him.

 

I've never seen him on a rant like this before.

 

Griffin beat Jones fair and square, after out-feinting and out-boxing him. He lost the rematch due to getting rid of Eddie Futch.

 

Barkley would've demolished Jones if Jones laid on the ropes like James did. Why? Because he's not anywhere remotely near as skilled as Toney was.

 

Robbie Sims held wins over DeWitt, Barkley and Duran at the time he fought Benn.

Bernard Hopkins held wins over, err, nobody, at the time he fought Jones. He still looked ordinary did Bernard three years after the Jones fight - being punched through the ropes against v.average Mercado. Sims troubled Benn greatly with his ring movement, clinching and body punching.

 

How can he have beaten him, when he was laying face down on the canvas?

He got a DQ win, which in my opinion he fully deserved. I don't agree with what Roy did. But Griffin didn't BEAT Roy.

Are we going to ignore what happened in the rematch?

If Futch had've been there, then what would have happened?

 

WHY would Roy have laid on the ropes?

 

Where are this going exactly?

 

Griffin put on a major acting job to get out of the fight because he knew if the fight continued he would be knocked out, just as he was in the re-match. Losing it had nothing to do with who he got rid of, it was a pissed off Jones trying to take his head off.

You don't give Roy credit for anything.. It is ridiculous.

Anyone watching the first fight could see that Roy Jones had definitely turned the fight around. In the second fight, he picked up where he left off, and put Griffin's face in the canvass again.

 

Griffin won the fight fair and square, after showing he was the better boxer. Get over it.

 

If he wasn't a complete dork, he wouldn't have.

 

Jones does have history of laying on the ropes against a heavier-handed fighter than himself - see the McClellan/Jones amateur fight from 1988, Jones can't get off those ropes and gets hammered to the body and head, only staying up due to pillows for gloves, a dense headguard and the ropes! McClellan, like Griffin and Tarver after him, beat Jones fair and square.

I never said he WOULD lay on the ropes against the rangey, beast-like Barkley, by the way. But there's a chance he would based on this history (and a peak into the future against Barkley-like marauding brawler Glen Johnson), and if he did.....no chance.

 

The fight was STOPPED in the 9th round.

He won the fight on a technicality.

He didn't beat Roy either by points, a KO, or a TKO.