Do people really think Ward vs Bute would be a foregone conclusion?

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  1. Miles5149

    Miles5149 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
    It's funny to see the Ward haters say Ward ducked Bute. And now that Froch beat Bute, they're saying Bute's done mentally and he's past prime just so if Ward beats him in the future, it won't be a decent win. Comical.
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was Ward who said the S6 winner should face Bute.

    It would have been a massive event.

    Good post

     
  3. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He fought Dawson? Yea, after Bute was brutally knocked out. So Bute was a non-factor at that point. Bute is a Canadian hype job who utterly exposed by the SECOND BEST FIGHTER IN THE DIVISION. You think he would have a shot against the top guy?

    And let's not pretend that Froch and his team are eager to face Ward again, in the UK or not. They know he will lose, again.
     
  4. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward was injured. i'm not disputing that. but if Ward had of agreed to fight Bute next, then Bute would have taken a stay busy fight in Canada to keep the rust off, then taken on Ward. he would never have come to the UK to fight Froch if a guarantee was in place. no way.

    yeah, because a fight with a drained Dawson was much better wasn't it?

    did you actually see any of the interviews that Ward did around that time? he was contradicting himself left right and centre.
    he said that he couldn't fight Bute because he'd signed to face Froch. it was Ward who said that he needed to fight one of the big boys in order to get a fight with him in the first place.
    then he said he picked Froch to beat Bute. :patsch
    why would he ask Bute to build the fight into a bigger attraction down the road when he picked Carl to win the fight?

    Ward didn't like the style match-up. :deal

    Ward vs Bute was the biggest fight in the division for all the marbles. it made perfect sense for the fight to happen. don't make excuses.

    so Froch beating Bute means Ward would do the same even though Froch and Ward couldn't be further away in styles? yeah, because it works out like that all the time doesn't it? :-(

    Bute fought who he could while the rest were in the tournament. he wasn't invited.

    apart from Kessler and Froch, who did Ward beat for him to be beyond a fighter like Bute? :think
     
  5. Stilt Skinner?

    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    Yes it is and would be, what would Bute do get smothered and try to land left uppercuts and short right hooks when he can - in the process get wobbled by not all to hard rights and lefts and end up knocked out from precise combination punching.
     
  6. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Ward isn't knocking no one out. :lol:

    if Ward gets close to Bute, he's tasting those sharp uppercuts. and we all know what happens when Ward gets hit by one of them clean don't we? Bute would never have let him recover.

    Ward didn't have the confidence to even get into the ring with Bute to do his smothering act. he knew what awaited him. :yep
     
  7. Stilt Skinner?

    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    negative we don't enlighten us unless your talking about Boone. also Ward had the confidence to Dominate almost everyone in the super six ,one of his leftovers destroyed Bute in a couple rounds.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    In what fight or fights, other than the Bute fight itself, has Froch ever shown or proven to have more power than Ward?

    I think they hit with equal force, honestly.

    And yes, I think Ward vs. Bute would have been won by Ward 9 times out of 10 if they fought the date that Bute fought Froch.
     
  9. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kenny Kost rocked him badly in the first round.

    dominate? he should have been DQ'd against Kessler. Bika was close. he held on all the time against Froch which he took on my card by only 2 points.

    everyone else he fought in that tournament was there for the taking. so don't go jumping for joy any time soon.

    not great is it?

    the same Bute that he was scared to fight? he had to let a real fighter take care of business. :yep

    a couple of rounds? a couple is 2. Froch did it in 5 rounds.
     
  10. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward hits as hard as Froch??? :lol: OK, Nonito. what ever you say.

    did you read my offer regarding the Cleverly and Kovalev fight?
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Buta wanted nothing to do with Ward.

    Larroche can say whatever he wants but the fact is they negotiated a fight with Froch as soon as he lost the S6 for TWO fights.
    They were convinved Froch was done and would be there for the taking for two big earning fights.
    His camp knew he was waiting to be exposed and signed him away from Ward.


    Ward being a light hitter is totally false. Froch couldn't walk thru Ward when he had only one hand , but walked thru everything the big puncher Bute threw at him.
    Wards track record are all against guys with stone chins.

    Ward would of shattered Bute and his camp knew it.
     
  12. Eric cantona

    Eric cantona Active Member Full Member

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    Defiantly not a foregone conclusion.....ward would put up some resistance
     
  13. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    Bute has been exposed for the hype job he is. Ward would murder Bute.
     
  14. Stilt Skinner?

    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    for what beating the **** out of him?. Bika was such a shitty fight I didn't bother scoring so I will take your word for it. Froch was fairly close I thought he took it by 4 rounds myself. No ones jumping for joy until a exciting fight gets made which Ward usually is not going to be a part of.
     
  15. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch Dino, Dino, Dino, Dino, Dino.... what is it with you? every time, man.

    Bute wanted to fight Ward, even in Oakland, but Ward turned around and told him he needed to beat someone like Froch or a Kessler to get the fight with him.

    when Bute went looking for another fight, Froch showed interest and it was signed. they came up with one fight in the UK, the other in Canada. well, Froch beat him so badly that it seemed stupid to have a rematch.

    AFTER the fight was signed with Foch, Ward was asked why it wasn't HE that was fighting Bute. he claimed that he couldn't because he'd already signed to fight Froch. it was Ward's IDEA for him to fight someone else, not Bute. Bute was willing to rock any time Ward wanted it.

    then,to top it all off, Ward was asked who he thought would win between the pair... Ward turned around and said Froch.

    why would he ask Bute to fight someone else to build the fight up (it didn't need building, it was already hot and had been talked about for over a year) then pick Froch to win it??

    Ward likes his fighters with no inside game. Kessler, Froch, Dawson and Pavlik... you see? Bute could fight on the inside, at range, and if you tried to get close, would wack that big uppercut in.

    Ward didn't want to know because he was scared. :deal he mumbled and contradicted himself through interviews. look what he was saying in regards to fighting Froch in the UK?? it was laughable! the guy is a cheating clown.

    why didn't Ward knock out glass jawed Green and Mirander?? stop talking rubbish.