i thought floyd doesnt want to fight @catchweight?

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  1. rell84

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    *******S :dead
     
  2. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather actually is telling the truth. A week or two before the fight was signed, Mayweather Sr. said he wanted the fight to be at 147. Canelo's manager responded by saying Canelo couldn't make 147 but that they would fight Mayweather at a catch weight. So as a matter of fact, Mayweather is telling the truth. Canelo's side are the ones who mentioned the catch weight first. You can say that wouldn't have happened had the idea of the fight taking place 147 not been floated out there, but from a factual standpoint, Canelo's side threw put the idea of a catch weight first.
     
  3. judgeJAB

    judgeJAB Skills to pay the bills! Full Member

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    So Canelo would have defended his 154 lb belt in a 147lb match? Or was Mayweather pulling a reverse Dawson / Ward? Neither sounds good yet you're defending it.
     
  4. shadow111

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    Canelo is the 154 lb champion!! Why would he fight at 147? who in their right mind ever saw that as a possibility?? Mayweather only said that as a starting point for negotiations to get Canelo to agree to his catch weight as a compromise. Why didn't Mayweather want the Cotto fight at 147? remember, he wanted Cotto be at his best, he didn't want ot be like Pacquiao who drained Cotto down so he was dehydrated!?

    Mayweather is not telling the truth!! He couldn't answer the question about the catch weight and said it was Canelo's people who came to him with the idea of the catch weight! That's not only patently untrue but deceptive as well, it's all spin from Mayweather. Because Canelo's people only came back to him about the catchweight after FMJ started the negotiations saying he wanted the fight at 147, which is absurd considering Canelo is a 154 lb champion. First it was 150, then 152, all until Canelo was forced to agree to Mayweather's demands. When asked, he made it seem like the whole thing was Canelo's idea, which wasn't the case at all. As Canelo's trainer said, if Canelo didn't agree to the catch weight Mayweather wouldn't fight!!
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah you see right through the BS judgeJAB. you're a real boxing fan, unlike these ***** actors defending FMJ at all costs no matter what.
     
  6. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not defending anything, I'm saying what happened. It was thrown out there that Mayweather only wanted to fight at WW, Canelo's side got spooked and the manager threw out the idea of a catch weight.
     
  7. Bazooka

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    Clever, Funny how things work isnt it?
     
  8. Bazooka

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    Canelo should insist on 8 ounce gloves since the fight isnt at 154
     
  9. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather may have manipulated Canelo, and maybe trying to manipulate the media. None the less, he's telling the truth when he says Canelo's side brought up the CW first. Hell, Canelo said he would fight Mayweather at 150 after the Cintron fight. Then a few weeks ago you had Canelo's manager saying they would be ok fighting Mayweather at a CW. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter anyway. This is a fight a lot of people wanted, and it's happening. If you have a real problem with the CW, then I would suggest you don't watch the fight and urge others to do the same. Otherwise, you're wasting your time arguing whether or not Mayweather is a liar.
     
  10. Stylez G.

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    First off, Canelo wants to fight with 10 oz. gloves. Second, the rules state any bout above WW has to take place using 10 oz. gloves.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Stop crying and enjoy the fight.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Canelo's camp did not get spooked, they had no choice but to agree to the catch weight, or else Mayweather wouldn't fight. Canelo held 2 belts at 154 lbs. Mayweather held one. The fight was always going to happen at 154. If Mayweather says he wanted the fight at 147, that was only to force Canelo to agree to the catchweight. Canelo's side didn't "throw out" the idea of the catch weight. That's where Mayweather's lying! The catchweight was 100% initiated by Mayweather! Canelo had absolutely no incentive to request a catch weight. The catch weight doesn't affect Mayweather, only Canelo! Canelo is the one who will have to struggle to make 152. Mayweather can easily make 148-150. It is preposturous to suggest that Canelo's camp requested the catch weight. That makes absolutely no sense.
     
  13. Stylez G.

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    They didn't request a CW, they suggested it first. That's factually true. Dawson would've been better suited to fight Ward at 175, yet he threw it out there that he would fight Dawson at 168. Fighters will throw put compromises to get a fight they really want. It happens all the time. Again though, it's a pointless debate. It doesn't matter how they got to the CW. If it's really a big deal to you, simply don't watch the fight. If you're gonna watch a fight, it must not be that big of an issue to you.
     
  14. shadow111

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    FMJ's is manipulating most of the media and most of the fans, including you. He's manipulating you into defending what he did. Why would I not watch this fight? I want to get excited about the fight, I just wish there wasn't any catchweight BS so there would be no excuses afterwords. because now if Canelo loses, Floyd has given them an excuse to still consider him undefeated. Canelo's trainer addressed this, this is what he said:

     
  15. shadow111

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    Dawson Ward was different. Dawson came out after he beat Hopkins and said "I will go down to 168 to fight Ward...for his title". (Notice Dawson remained LH champion - his title wasn't on the line) Dawson offered to go down a weight class to fight Ward. Ward took him up on that offer. Canelo never came out and called out Mayweather like Dawson did Ward. He never came out and offered to come down to 147. Mayweather was the one who started negotiations by saying he wanted the fight at 147 to force Canelo to have a catch weight. Unlike Dawson, whose LHW Title was not on the line since he went down a full weight class, in this fight both men currently hold 154 lb titles. (Ward did not hold a 175 lb title) It's completely different and again *****s are using other fights to try to justify what FMJ did. it's not like SRL Lalonde and it's not like Dawson Ward. The catchweight penalty was all Mayweather's idea. To suggest anything else is untrue.