How could old School ATGs ever be prepared to face todays HW Champions?

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  1. Zapper1608

    Zapper1608 Member Full Member

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    We always talk about how great old school boxers like Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano , Muhammed Ali etc were.
    After watching pre 70s Heavyweight title fights, i'm under the impression that almost all the HWs apart from Ali were pretty flat footed and their reflexes weren't really all that good.
    But these two aspects are very important in Modern Heavyweight Boxing.
    How would these old school boxers, if their opposition were so limited in those two aspects, even have a be prepared for Tyson, Lewis, Klitschkos etc?
     
  2. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    TYSON got KOd by BUSTER DOUGLAS in his PRIME
     
  3. Zapper1608

    Zapper1608 Member Full Member

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    Buster Douglas showed great movement and coordination in that fight.
     
  4. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    Yesterday is not today. Your question is illogical.
     
  5. Zapper1608

    Zapper1608 Member Full Member

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    It should be self explanatory that i'm talking about a hypothetical scenerio.
     
  6. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    The ATG's you speak of would all take either Klitschko to school. :good
     
  7. Shawn Kemp

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    Marciano and Dempsey aren't great they are just hype jobs that only certain types of people like and neither were modern size heavyweights. George Foreman, Frazier, Ali ect ect ect would of beat Tyson, and either Klitschko and Foreman actually fought in Tyson's era anyway and won the title.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's very hard to judge and compare fighters from the past to modern day fighters even from the clips we have on film. This is due to difference in the quality of the film back then, things such as frame rate effect how a fighter moves on film. I've seen films of Louis where he looked slow and then seen better quality films where he looked just as athletic as modern day heavies. Just watch a fight on you tube then watch a good quality download of the same fight and you will notice the difference.

    Boxing has also changed and fighters have changed to adapt to the new rules. Could you see a 250lbs super heavyweight dealing with 15 rounds as easily as 12, I doubt it, if we went back to 15 rounds heavyweights would all become smaller to deal with having to go 25% longer.

    This is why fighters should mainly be judged on resume rather than what we perceive they would do against their modern day peers.
     
  9. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is what people have to remember, Foreman fought for a title 20 years after he won it in his and still won it. He was 46 god damnit.
     
  10. Mattaru

    Mattaru Guest

    'It’s perfectly okay to honor the greats of the past *and* acknowledge that modern athletes are part of evolutionary trends in sheer physicality/size, strength, and the development of craft thanks to modern technologies and advanced training. You don’t have to discredit the greats of today in order to keep the greats of yesteryear relevant.'

    Something I read online today from a chap named David Matthews.
     
  11. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    I know that a shot, fat and past of his prime Lewis T.K.O'd in 6th a young, in his prime roided Vitali !
     
  12. BlackBrenny

    BlackBrenny Guest

    The Klitschkos are ****ing massive, and Wladimir was almost dwarfed by Charr, Charrs sheer size gave Wlad problems, imagine how much Wlads size, let alone skill, would have troubled the past heavies, no matter how skillfull they were

    David Haye, a monster puncher at cruiserweight and an athletic beast, couldn't do a thing to Wladimir
     
  13. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    what about the Lewis - Vitali fight ? what happened in that fight ?:hey
     
  14. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    yes the K bros are big but we all know what happened when one of them i.e Vitali met a past of his prime ATG skilled heavyweight in Lewis ?:yep
     
  15. BlackBrenny

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    sure but its not like he didn't give Lewis his problems, you'd think Lewis KO'd him in a round the way your talking, and Lewis was a big guy himself