2001 Bernard Hopkins vs prime Jake Lamotta

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  1. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So was Jake. Oftentimes he had to practically kill himself to make the middleweight limit.

    Jake fought Bob Satterfield, who was bigger and hit a hell of a lot harder than Hopkins. So how is Hopkin's size going to be an issue here?

    I think Hopkins has a good chance to win this. But to suggest that he easily beats LaMotta is silly. Jake was far more experienced against MUCH better opposition. It isn't even close in that regard.

    Any way you slice it, Hopkins is going to catch hell that night, win, lose or draw.
     
  2. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Easy win for Hopkins. LaMotta just doesn't have anything he can surprise prime Hopkins with.
     
  3. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    HECK no.

    Robinson was prime a welter he was past his best a middleweight bro.
     
  4. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins would pick him apart
     
  5. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The first time he fought LaMotta he was 21 years old.

    The second time he was 22

    The third time he was 22

    The fourth time he was 24

    The fifth time he was 25

    Please explain to me how these ages can possibly be considered "past prime"?
     
  6. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was a welterweight fighting a middleweight the first fight.

    he moved up to middleweight and fought that was not his natural weight class.
     
  7. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You said he was "past his prime" when he fought LaMotta. All of his fights with Jake LaMotta were when he was under the age of 30 and with plenty of years left in him.
     
  8. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude he was a natural welterweight.
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I havent seen the responses but my pick is Hopkins who is bigger and smarter, slicker, quicker, and better on defense, with about the same level of durability

    Hopkins frustrates lamotta who is headed for another heartbreaking loss

    Jake just cant seem to win the big ones
     
  10. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just want an explanation for your claim that Robinson was "past his prime" when he fought LaMotta. Explain please.

    And just for the record, Ray was also MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD and considered one of the greatest at 160 ever. A greater welter, for sure. But no slouch at 160.
     
  11. HeavyweightCP

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    Dude was The GOAT AT 147 he was his prime at 160.

    thats like saying roberto duran was at his best at 147 or 154

    i just think hopkins would pick lamotta apart
     
  12. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not what you said. You said he was past his prime against LaMotta, which is provably untrue (as I have clearly illustrated).


    Fair enough. But it would definitely be tougher than you think.
     
  13. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Hopkins. Too much footwork and combination ability. Hopkins and Robinson are pretty different, bad comparison.
     
  14. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    very different
     
  15. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're right. Hopkins doesn't compare to Robinson in either department :smoke