'Tony Zale would lick him' Graziano when asked about a SRR vs Zale match up

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Burt, howdoya think Solly Kreiger would fare among today's middleweights?
     
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    If you feel that the "palooka's" statements are wrong, simply state your reasons. I'd like to hear them. Or is adolescent name-calling backed with hot air the best you can muster?
     
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    I never saw Solly Krieger fight, but my dad saw him a few times and said he was a terrific body puncher who more than held his own with the likes of Freddie Steele, Fred Apostoli, Billy Conn, Harry Balsamo and a forgotten tough egg those days named Oscar Rankins...I have no doubt he would beat any middleweight of today, with the possible exception of the coming destructive puncher Gennady Golovkin...I loved Rocky Graziano, but were Rocky to fight the middleweights of Krieger's day ,he would be beaten by those MWs of the 1930s...But Golovkin might be something very, very special. Time will tell...cheers jg.
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I would have liked to see Zale in h is prime. He must have been something special.
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I thought Robinson looked good outboxing Randy Tupin in their 1951 rematch. At that time Turpin was young,rugged, powerful and undefeated. A very awkward style as well. He caught an elbow which opened the cut but overall I believe this was the last prime Sugar Ray performance.

    Turpin was one of the best middleweights Ive seen on film at least for that short period of time. Not in terms of greatness whether it was Robinson cracking his chin or the mental illness he suffered from. He was a helluva force at that time.
     
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    ETM, I saw that fight in the old Polo Grounds. What excitement at the end.
    I was sitting in an aisle seat and after Ray Robinson's spectacular knockout, I saw Robinson half dragged and propped up going to his dressing room. I looked at his exhausted face with his head to the side
    being rushed to his dressing room. I will never forget SRR's expression
    of sheer weariness...Turpin was a strong, awkward fighter who seemed to go downhill after that fight for whatever reason...
     
  7. Anubis

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    Randy Turpin may have been the most renowned lighter weight boxer of his era to utilize modern barbell and dumbell training in his conditioning regimen. Used incorrectly, it could have been a practice which backfired horribly with the knowledge which existed about bodybuilding and strength training over 60 years ago. [Marciano searched assiduously for then sketchy information about bodybuilding and strength developing methods while growing up, and was frequently frustrated in his pursuits. Charles Atlas comic book advertisement routines just didn't cut it.]

    Whatever Randy Turpin did with those weights, it worked. Could be interesting to know exactly what his regimen was. It did not become a more widespread practice until after the demise of the championship distance.
     
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