Did Foreman's chin improve with age. Why did Ali drop him but not Holy or Moorer?

The 12 rounds of Morrison-Foreman should be reviewed by everybody doubting the veracity of George's chin in his 40s, then some knockouts by Tommy also looked at, to appreciate the firepower Foreman took without flinching which so many others were blasted out by. Mercer said Morrison was the hardest puncher he fought, and Ray's a competent authority on the subject of punch resistance.

Morrison wasn't sticking and running on Foreman, he was hooking and running. Cooney nailed George with a single hook which I believe would have floored Foreman in the 1970s. Tommy blasted him with a lot of hooks for 12 rounds.

Alex Stewart exposed a few things about the older Foreman in their ten rounder. One was George's ability to take a punch. Holyfield was able to drop and stop Tyson. Foreman didn't take a backwards step against Evander. Tack on the career ending win he was robbed of against Briggs, the case can be made he took on more big punchers and took far more hits against them in his decade long second career simply by virtue of boxing much longer distances. Six of his final ten career matches lasted longer than all of his 1970s bouts except Jimmy Young.

Foreman was more proactive on defense in his later career, but he was also getting hit more because he was more relaxed and competing over longer distances. His second career was longer than his first career, and he maintained a higher level of activity. Even in only facing Schultz in 1995 or Grimsley in 1996, he still boxed more complete rounds and minutes in each of those individual matches than he cumulatively totaled in 12 fights over the three years between Peralta II and Ali.

 

Those punches look hard but are empty. They are a big throwing but he lacks the speed to concuss foreman the way Ali did. If the concussion is caused by shaking up the brain inside the skull, a quick punch would be more effective than a big whaling slow punch. You want that brain to accelerate in the skull, you need high acceleration, you can be hit by a bus at 5 mph in the head it isn't going to knock you out, it might hurt a little. You get hit by a baseball at 95 km/h you are going to fall asleep and be unconscious. Speed is more important than mass in knocking people out.

 

Foreman was wise not to fight the bigger top fighters of the 1990s.Foreman cleverly picked the smallest of what was availible among the rated heavyweights and his build up fights were almost entirely against light heavyweights and cruisers.

George could walk a man down and take away leverage from his 30-50lb lighter opponents. Watch George's feet, he would cross his feet to gain distance on a fighter- you cant do that on a man of a simular size. You take away a mans room to punch you take away 50% of his power.George knew this. He was not taking full force and he was not fighting elite fighters.

Everyone who hit George in his second career hit everyone else harder.

 

I am not disputing Foremans punch resistance in his 40s.

What I will not accept is that it was better than in his prime.

Suggesting that just flies in the face of the observed trend in every other fighter that has ever lived.

 

So now you get it... :roll:

 

George punched himself out against Ali, nothing to do with his chin.. sheer exhaustion.

 

Yes, there is pretty much nobody even remotely educated on boxing history not of that opinion.

"TheSouthpaw" has been trolling from the start, toward what end who knows. (and who cares?)

:-((

 

The simple truth. In Zaire Foreman was exhausted, gassed out, mentally and physically broken. He wasn't against Moorer or Holyfield. He had new confidence in himself, he was much more determined, and he had learned his physical limitations and how to work with them, and more importantly, he knew how to survive a bit of danger or fatigue rather than just blindly lashing out to try and end a fight, which is more than he knew as a young man.

End of story.

 

Foremans chin did not imorove with age.

He did not get dropped as an old man because he did not fight the best punchers and fought more reservedly against the smallest the division had to offer.