Pacquiao or Mayweather? when its all set and done who will be remembered as the best?

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  1. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    you and the others that voted for floyd should also give him an award or statue....kinda' like what the Boxing Writers of America gave to pacquiao when he was awarded as the Fighter of the Decade.
     
  2. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :yep
     
  3. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR lost many fights and he's still remembered as the GOAT
     
  4. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very true, Right now Floyd is looking better, taking on Alvarez, still undefeated, and we all hope Pac will beat rios but what if he doesn't? After Floyd has finished his showtime contract and retires for good, we can compare their records. I think Floyd will fight Lucas Mattaysse next, if he does it will be hard to talk bad about him taking on 2 guys in a row who are younger and stronger, when he is 36?
     
  5. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Statistics for the last 10 opponents of Floyd vs Manny, their performance in last two fights, and if it was a catchweight.

    Manny Pacquiao
    Brandon Rios: LW
    Juan Manuel Marquez IV: WL
    Timothy Bradley: WW
    Juan Manuel Marquez III: WW (Floyd already beat) C
    Shane Mosley: DL (Floyd already beat)
    Antonio Margarito: WL C
    Joshua Clottey: LW
    Miguel Cotto: WW C
    Ricky Hatton: WW (Floyd already beat)
    Oscar De La Hoya: WL (Floyd already beat)

    Total: 13 wins, 6 losses, 1 draw, 4 leftovers, 3 catchweights

    Floyd Mayweather
    Saul Alvarez: WW C
    Robert Guerrero: WW
    Miguel Cotto: WW (Manny already beat)
    Victor Ortiz: WD
    Shane Mosley: WW
    Juan Manuel Marquez: WW (Manny already beat) C
    Ricky Hatton: WW
    Oscar De La Hoya: WL
    Carlos Baldomir: WW
    Zab Judah: LW

    Total: 17 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw, 2 leftovers, 2 catchweights

    So please tell me again about how Floyd is the cherry picker and Pacquiao is the warrior.
     
  6. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here is another comparison of the two. Total wins and losses of their opponents at the time of each fight.
    Manny 1580 wins,304 losses 81% winning record for his opponents. Manny record 54-5-2
    Floyd 1195 wins,195losses 84% winning record for his opponents. Floyds record 44-0-0
    Even though it is close Floyd's record is better. Manny has had 17 more fights and his oppenets have 109 more losses.
    Floyds opponents average 4.4 losses, Manny's average 4.9 losses. Floyd has had just slightly better competition.
     
  7. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, a malnourished 17 yr old construction worker and part time fighter at that time!
     
  8. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd, by miles!
     
  9. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Pac was at the top for a while. But Money as been at the top for the longer run at both ends of the Pac era.
     
  10. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Floyd did not want to fight him, Pac fought Mosley and beat him better than Floyd did.
     
  11. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Manny who? Hardly anybody talks about him anymore. Imagine what it will be like when he's years removed? Probably same for Mayweather to be fair. He's made money but not long lasting impressions. I'll remember Manny for not taking the test. Say what you want, but he could have slapped Floyd in the face and possibly beat his ass in the ring by taking the tests little girl gymnasts take in the Olympics. I thought Manny was all about the fans? But he didn't. Nothing but excuses after.
     
  12. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac was the champ when he lost to Singsurat but was he the champ when he lost to Morales and JMM in their 4th fight? Ah yah, you're not counting the Bradley fight as a loss for Pac, right?
     
  13. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're right, nobody talks about him anymore except Mayweather to promote his upcoming fight with Canelo! Floyd will not be remembered for his undefeated record but for masterly avoiding any fighter with a slightest chance of upsetting him aside from Pac.
     
  14. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They probably would if they were lanky, poorly-trained and malnourished 17 year-old construction workers who took boxing as a side job.
     
  15. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll remember Floyd as the fighter who has superior boxing skills, a bigger guy than Pac, and a betting favorite. He just wanted to clean up the sport of boxing when fans were clamoring for a fight against Pacquiao, that's how he'll be remembered :hi: