Anybody think furys got the tools to beat haye

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  1. madg321

    madg321 Active Member Full Member

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    What do people think
     
  2. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No.

    Absolutely no chance in hell.
     
  3. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No way. People saying he can use his size and height? When has he ever boxed behind his jab and showed good skills at long rage? And don't sa kingpin
     
  4. smegmaa

    smegmaa Undefeated Champ Full Member

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    No. A lazy jab with limited defence or footspeed.
     
  5. Of course he can win
    Haye will be favourite and rightfully so but his inactivity and so/so performances against big men means the big man is a very live outsider
     
  6. KidFrankie

    KidFrankie Member Full Member

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    no. this is the man who robbed Big bad john McDermott and should have a loss on his boxrec lol.

    Haye has lost twice, once he gassed to carl Thompson after dominating the early rounds and punching himself out. And the other to VLAD who just out jabbed him and lets be fair vlad is experienced and world class.
     
  7. Solaris

    Solaris Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury has no jab, no movement, is chinny, very susceptible to overhand rights, can't box to a game plan and is too arrogant for his own good.

    There are so many more reasons why he can't win than reasons that he can.
     
  8. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know but if David doesn't abstain from letting Adam climb up on his back who knows.
     
  9. ITSMACHOTIME

    ITSMACHOTIME Active Member Full Member

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    Nah, its just a case of how much to lump on a haye ko/tko
     
  10. Metal Man

    Metal Man Active Member Full Member

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    i just watched Fury v Johnson and Fury showed a very fast,snappy range finding jab and backed it up with good side movement.He also showed discipline by keeping his chin down so when Johnson would connect it would usually be on Tysons forehead.

    I then watched Haye v Wlad and Haye cant box:yep.He's an explosive fighter,a fast twitch fighter but he's not a great conventional boxer.No jab,poor footwork,continually off balance.He was reduced to throwing looping right hands.It reminded me of Naseem v Barerra.This is what Peter Fury can see.
     
  11. Solaris

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    I just want to check here, but you are comparing Fury v Johnson to Haye vs Klitchsko?

    Is that correct?
     
  12. Metal Man

    Metal Man Active Member Full Member

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    If Fury boxes Haye like he did Johnson then Fury wins:yep.Other factors to consider is the considerable height difference.Haye will be punching up which takes away leverage and therefore power the main reason Mike Tyson struggled to knock out taller men.
     
  13. Leif Erikson

    Leif Erikson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Problems with this:

    1) Kevin Johnson cannot punch.

    2) He is as explosive as a glacier.

    3) Mike Tyson knocked out plenty of taller men, and he also had an excellent chin.

    4) Tyson Fury is horribly open to the right hand, and is regularly nailed by smaller men.

    5) That lack of defence combined with Fury's glass chin is not good for him. He's been floored and badly hurt by fighters with a sub-30% KO ratio. If you have a chin as supernaturally bad as he does, you'd better be incredibly elusive.
     
  14. Solaris

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    I wasn't even going to dignify his nonsense with a response, so I thank you for doing it. :lol:
     
  15. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Yes furey has the tools, has David the desire left?