David Tua vs. Rocky Marciano.

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  1. rusak

    rusak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is he not a plodder, John? Is Marciano light on his feet with good foot speed? No, he isn't. The bottom line is, Marciano has no way of avoiding Tua's power and, no, he's not going to take that power well at all. Marciano is going to be right in front of Tua, trying to slug it out. It's not going to work.
     
  2. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your implication, r, was that Rocky was a ham-n'-egger. Wished you'd seen him live. Nothing could be further from the truth.
     
  3. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tua by KO. Just way to heavy and powerful for Marciano.
     
  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Tua at 19 was 201lb Rocky at 22 was 190lb...
     
  6. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Camerons book puts Rocky 190 mid teens
     
  7. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rocky started doing calisthenic and his famous hill running when he was 10,he's going to be a solid teenager.
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Rocky overtrained thats how he was lighter as he got older. By comparison to what is considered normal today all fighters over trained. Profesionals in those days kept their weight down as the amateurs still do. Professional boxing was contested between younger boxers with more fights, the pace was still high even if the rounds were longer than amateur bouts.

    When Tua was an amateur he also had to keep his weight down but in the pro's having to compete at a slower pace for extra rounds against an increasingly slower and heavier division he began to train like the rest of the modern heavyweights.

    At 201lb Tua was not as trim as Marciano would have been at 190lb. You could argue Tua could have been even less. It all proves that with simular training there was not much between them physically.
     
  9. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just like in most sports, the older they get with more weights the bigger they get.
     
  10. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is not a scenario where Tua will be out-slicked by some crafty boxer (Byrd), or kept from getting close to his man all night (Lewis)... no, this will be like 2 freight trains colliding. A simple test of strength/power with no stylistic advantage to either man.

    Listen, I admire Rocky as much as the next guy... but how on earth can anyone believe, he will survive for long in this fantasy match-up? What's he gonna do? Can you honestly see him give away 40 lbs to as hard-hitting and durable an opponent like Tua, and just pound him into submission? I find this highly unlikely.

    I'll take Tua by ko inside 5 rounds.
     
  11. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then why call him a fool? Tua didn't eat his way up to 245lbs, and lets be honest Tommo thats the picture you have in your head of him.
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Proof positive that the remaining folks on this thread don't know ****-all about breaking down styles. Tua liked his targets in stasis; Marciano could and would attack moving targets. That is the crux here. Would Tua catch Marciano in a corner, on the roper or in his low, slow bob or would Marciano's non stop barrage, from all angles and positions. weaken and dishearten Tua.

    At least frame the question properly.
     
  13. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hey brother how do u see the fight going
     
  14. rusak

    rusak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolute and utter horse****. Marciano had 4 fights under 180 lbs at 25-26 years of age. Marciano was fat at 200 lbs, whereas as Tua was as thin as he could be. Tua is naturally more massively built than Marciano, it's genetic. Look at his calves, for example. No matter what Marciano did, he would never have calves like that.
     
  15. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nutsak, show us pics of Marciano in his fat youth.