David Tua vs. Rocky Marciano.

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    Ike tracked down Byrd in 5 and put him away. The greatest ellusive fighters of all time could not shake Rock off their tail. KO loss for Byrd.
     
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    Man do I miss the good days of the CBZ .. the quality of some of these posts are pathetic.

    Styles make fights. No one other than an exceptionally talented, brutally strong, tough, 235 boxer puncher with an iron chin ever slugged with a prime Tua and even that was behind a strong jab and movement ... No one else ever slugged with him from the opening bell and survived. Before he lost his focus Tua also showed a ton of heart and late round power as well ... against Rachman, against Izon , against Maskaev ...

    Tua devastated John Ruiz who was tough as nails and fought grueling fights against Holyfield, Rachman, Johnson, Golata and Chagaev ... he may have fought ugly but he stood up to all of them .. his chin was first rate. Here is what Tua did to him and others ..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKDvkcLe0K0

    Izon:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3csq4PvPURg

    Moore:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7fWAFy42M

    Rachman 1 ( 8:10)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOkiAvy5pXs

    Maskaev

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi0fvqCyVs


    Tua was a physical monster. I met him several times, stood next to him and let me tell you that the man radiated a physical power unlike anyone I ever met. He was flat out scary as hell. The comparisons I've read that he really wasn't really bigger than Marciano are hilarious.

    Tua became lazy and was an underachiever. He never seemed to be the same after his brutal fight w Ike, one of the toughest heavyweight fights I've ever seen and one that I believe Tua deserved the nod although it was very close.

    The scoop on Tua is fairly simple.

    He could be outboxed as proved in a number of fights that he won late and lost. Lennox Lewis, one of the most physically gifted heavyweights of all time , in his own prime, used his gigantic size to do it. Rachman did it with mixed rests but Rachman was a talented boxer puncher and a giant in his own right. Byrd , exceptionally talented and grossly underrated in his own right won a razor thin decision that also could have gone either way. All no doubt true but these men beat him by boxing him .. no one came out from round one and slugged with him let alone an 185 pound crusierweight. It's absurd.

    The name of this forum should be changed to Fantasy Island. I realize why many only frequent Classic. It's because if their knowledge had to be tested in real time they would be completely exposed.
     
  7. SP_Mauler

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    He grant supporting the black fighting and belittling the white one what a shocker.

    Ike never slowed down.
    Ruiz was green,you'd have to be a blind man to see him vs Tua and then beyond.
    Moorer was washed up after taking several beatings.
    Byrd clearly won.
    Got a gift vs Rahman 1
    Got a gift and a beating in Rahman 2

    Comparing Izon and Maskeav to Marciano? When you display his power you have shown us has beens,rookies or nobodies. Show us a top10 fighter, a Bowe V Holyfield - Spinks Vs Tyson - Klitschko vs Byrd - Foreman v Frazier - Frazier v Chuvalo - Lennox vs Rahman2..something

    Rocky could never adjust, He took on some of the greatest fighters of all time and never won, never displayed ring IQ,heart or courage, **** poor stamina who only had power at the start of the fight and who would be nothing more then a punching bag for the real dark destroyer David Tua because he had no defense.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point Mauler. Can hardly wait for the rest of the usual suspects to surface ... I need to hear how Rocky crushed 190 pound Vingo again ... :lol:
     
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    Good, cya later. Could have shown other fights but you pick the most known ones. Awesome.

    Tua was all PR
     
  10. frankenfrank

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    very fair assessment bay he grant .
    Tua wud hev stopt Marchegiano .
    And Tua iz not blk ez far ez i rimember
     
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    Same point brown,black,yellow,blue whatever, he spurts the same **** like Seamus does Dempsey
     
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    No, Tua is not black. Mauler exposed himself and you got my point. You take the sainted Marciano off Mt. Olympus and hold him accountable to facts and you get attacked by the nuthuggers as racist ... they don't seem to get that they disgrace Rocky with their own posts.
     
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    Exposed myself as what? You clearly proved our point in the over hyping of Tua when all you did was post his only famous KOs of nobodies, he's the Danny Green KO on Roy Jones jr and living off that. No **** he punches hard but where was the power on the world level? when it really matter, Rahman was the perfect fighter for him to display it against but he came off second best.

    You posted fanatical Marciano/Dempseys supporters are also staunch Klitschko supporters, Also your post of even though he was "old" Joe Louis said Marciano could punch,he said it when he was comparing himself to Ali too. Walcott said to Louis face Marciano punched harder than him.
     
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    And Tua was black and couldn't punch, right ? Maybe if it took him nine rounds to pummel Don ****ell, another blown up light heavyweight, you'd view him as a world class puncher .. :nut
     
  15. frankenfrank

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    BTW, de seim Kirk Johnson wum stopt Maskaev, uzd 2 flor Ibeabuchi regularly in sparring ekording 2 salty trunks .
    I biliv him .
    Lance Whitaker & Corey Sanders wum stopt Maskaev wud hev dan de seim 2 Rocco no dabt .

    Maskaev stopt e 21:0 Alexander Miroshnichenko in hiz debut , de seim gai wum flord Riddick Bowe 2wais in de 1988 olympic geims bat samhaw lost de decijen 2 him (i wocht it) .

    Maskaev stopt Rahman fer & sqwer 2wais wail bi'ing de older men .
    Stopt Jeff Wooden & Robert Hawkins wum Tua feild 2 stop ez wel .
    Maskaev outdid Tua egeinst ich 1 of deir mutual oponents , end de idiots hir stil konsider him e nir bam dyu 2 him faiting 1 of de fircest oposishens ever feict bai e HW .