I'm from the UK, you're referring to Northern Ireland who class themselves as British. Mainland Ireland is very much its own country. separated from the UK. enough so much they use the Euro as their currency. Collins is from that part of Ireland. Its not really associated with the British. The Eire's hate us British for a potato famine or something. So, me supporting Collins has nothing to do with my nationality, that would be like an American Supporting a Canadian. I like Collins' as a fighter after he beaten the best of English in fact, Eubank and Benn. So, save your bigotry for somebody else. I'm above it.
Beating the best of the UK means nothing in reality though. Benn was finished and Eubank was on the slide. Nothing ATG about it.
Nope.. Toney would knock Benn out. He would also outpoint Eubank IMO. Roy's spanking of Toney, Thorton and Malinga.. With an unbeaten record, and a H2H beast at the weight put him second to only Calzaghe who was also unbeaten and just too deep a resume at the weight to not be considered the greatest. Again, that is my opinion, and I stand by it.
Jones struggled badly against the nice and snug and tight defenses of Malinga and Thornton, resorting to feints against Malinga and missing 90+% of a 25+-shot flurry against Thornton, who dislocated his shoulder. Eubank landed at will on those guys, but then again styles do make fights and Eubank had that ultra-slick style with those short untelegraphed shots, whereas Jones had a very loose style with leaping and/or looping punches. Jones also was more powerful than Eubank, a sick puncher.
lol @ Eubank. Dude is a bitter old **** that is forgotten. He is angry that his son sucks and is trying to live in the past. Dude is borderline crazy.
'What about the fight this Friday night? ' I eventually asked. 'I predict an easy win for me,' Toney said. 'I'm surprised you haven't said anything bad about Tony Thornton yet!' 'Well, he hasn't tried to diss me. I respect Tony Thornton. He's a cagey veteran. When I was a kid I used to watch him on TV. He beat lots of great fighters before I even turned pro. So he knows his way round a ring as well as anyone. He knows all the angles, all the moves. 'He can be real slippery and I know he's tough. But when the fighting's over he's just a regular guy.' 'They call him the 'Punching Postman'!' 'Yeah,' Toney laughed, 'he's a ****ing postman!' 'Different kind of deliveries to your last job!' 'Ain't pay as well as either,' Toney observed. 'But I don't need no letter to tell me that Thornton's better than most. Look, he fought Chris Eubank in Britain and he won that fight. They gave it to Eubank - a split decision - but it should have gone Thornton's way. I take my hat off to him. I'm gonna earn him his biggest pay-day on Friday. But I'm still gonna lay some bad hurt on him.' 'Have you thought about this fight a lot?' 'I got Tony Thornton on the brain. I see his face last thing at night. When I wake up I see him again. But it's worse for him 'cos I'm the champion and he's on his way out. I'm younger and stronger than him. He's no fool. He knows it.' 'But you must have some doubts,' I said. 'You've said how canny Thornton is in the ring. What if he beats you?' 'It ain't happening..' 'But what if it did? You must sometimes have a little fear too....' 'No!' 'Even just before the fight? While you're waiting in your dressing room? When you're walking out to the ring?' Toney shook his head. 'It's just a strange time.'
atberry, I think you underrate the element of surprise Jones had.. Not even the best defensive fighters could stop it.. There wasn't really a way to train for it.
The best defensive boxer was Eubank. Jones' couldn't penetrate that defensive with his leaping frog ****. He'd get knocked out fast. Jones was technically not as good as Eubank. If you disagree with that then you're an idiot.
these boards keep going to new lows. holy **** there are some dumb people on here. yeah ray close can give eubank trouble in two fights but jones wouldn't last very long. :roll:
I do, do you know what irony means? You left out your point after your fail attempt to ridicule me with a 1 sentence retort.
Eubank outside of America, yeah, that little bubble you live in was the real SMW champion of the World while your main man Roy Jones was leap frogging policemen in his prime.
i'm not ridiculing you, you've done that all on your own if you're serious about eubank over jones. you can put british on your avatar anytime you like now...