Who's the GOAT at SMW?

Eubank wouldn't have had a problem with Michalczewski at 175lbs.

 

Being at the top of the fictional list is an honor every boxer wants, but only few achieve. There are certainly perks that come with being generally known as the best fighter alive.

Haye had an impressive run.. there is no denying that.

 

This was after Jones crushed him in 1, and after losing again to Eric Harding.. You are always going on about Ward beating Calzaghe's leftovers, Griffin was Roy's leftovers when DM fought him.

I also had Griffin up clearly the first three rounds, and thought the stoppage was complete bull.. and you wonder why Roy didn't want to go there...

Now compare that to Roy's knockout. Also, remember that DM went on to lose to Gonzalez, someone Roy wiped the floor with. Richard Hall also went on to give DM hell, after being taught a complete lesson by Roy.

Roy's leftovers often gave DM all he could handle, or more in the case of Gonzalez.

 

I am looking overall, and I agree that Joe was a great fighter.

It doesn't matter that Joe beat Eubank and Eubank beat Roch.

We can give examples like that all day long. It's irrelevant.

When Joe couldn't unify with Ottke, he could have moved up to LHW and looked to fight Roy, DM and Tarver etc.

 

Griffin won by a DQ after getting up from the canvas. He didn't beat Roy.

DM had no claim whatsoever to the WBC belt, and you can't argue otherwise.

Roy vacated the belt in 97.

Roch beat Nunn fair and square, and should never have been stripped.

But the only reason he had it, is because Roy dropped it.

Then three years later DM beat Roch in their rematch.

But that doesn't mean that DM had a claim to the belt, just because he'd beaten a guy who'd held it 3 years previously. That's ridiculous!

 

Look at Joe's record...

When has he ever fought a big talented southpaw? I have read that Joe didn't like to fight other southpaws.. Roy didn't like to fight southpaws either, but at least he did..

I think it is very clear he would have gone no where near Tarver or Dawson.

LHW had a few good southpaws in it, I would have loved to see him mix it up with them.

 

I agree.

Roy fought:

Otis Grant
Lou Del Valle
Reggie Johnson
Ricky Frazier
Richard Hall
Eric Harding
Antonio Tarver x 3

Joe once said that Tarver was nothing special, and he'd done nothing apart from beat a past his best Roy Jones.

Funny how that was in 2004, and Joe fought Roy in 2008.

 

The only possible way to argue this is to go on and on about how shot to **** and brittle handed Joe was..

What I would like to know, how a "shot" fighter in which one of their biggest strengths is high work rate, can still throw 1000 punches a fight with their brittle hands.:huh

But then again, why was Tarver nothing special? Was it because he was a big talented southpaw?:think

He surely had no problem beating up on Roy years later..:roll:

Joe was near his best, Roy was shot.. end of story.

 

Yeah, but if Collins was on the same drugs Roy was on, who knows what would have happened?

 

Do you dream of performing fellatio on Eubank?

 

Chris Eubank (promoting his own show/fight) in Dubai:


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ny-krMxyLY[/url]

 

:good

I'm just waiting for Bailey's response to this.

It'll go something like:


Roy was back to his best after a great win over Tito.

He was adjusted back to the weight.

He'll then show a clip of Roy against Hall from 2000, and ask what the difference is between a 2000 version of Roy, and the 2008 version that Joe fought.

Joe was old.

Joe's hands had gone.

Joe was bloated.

It was a new weight for Joe.

Joe chased Roy for 5-6 years.

Danny Green only knocked Roy out the following year, because it was in a different weight class.

Ha!

Still, we have to be thankful that he's not as deluded as Assassin.

"Joe had better footwork than Roy, was faster, and he'd have knocked him out."

That's straight jacket talk right there.

 

That's true.

If Steve had been taking the Roy'ds that Alton Merkerson had bought from Christopher Reeve, then he'd have been leaping in with lead uppercuts and blazing 5-6 punch combos.

 

Roy Jones Jr is the best fighter to ever fight at super middleweight, but Joe Calzaghe has had the greatest super middleweight career in history.

 

agreed :good