name me five fighters who you think would beat royjj without doubt frm mw to smw

I don't pick any classics from MW.. Hagler, Monzon, SRR.. Not a single one. G-Man has a better chance than any of them IMO, and if he didn't get Roy out of there in the first 5 rounds, it would be a complete schooling where G-Man is made to look foolish in the late rounds.

Benn's best chance is earlier as well, the more that goes on, the more Roy catches him with with shots he doesn't see coming, possibly stopping Benn anytime though, Roy had the power to shatter Benn's chin at any point in the fight.

Eubank waits too much, which would totally play into Roy's hands.. He wasn't near fast of foot enough either to deal with Jones' leaping shots.. It would go the distance for sure.. I see something like 117-111 kind of dec.

Calzaghe would make it interesting for a while and would have his moments, but I just don't think he had the speed or firepower to outlast Jones down the stretch. Jones could also catch him at anytime and finish the job IMO.

 

How about Foster and Spinks at 175?

I've been watching a lot of Bob Foster recently, and that guy used to wreck people. He was tall and rangy and had huge power. He said that he was a natural LHW, and even if he'd been out of the gym for about 5 to 6 weeks, he'd still only weigh about 178/179.

I can't envisage anyone who fought at 168 beating a 25 year old version of Roy.

 

McClellan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Calzhage wouldn't make anything interesting against a prime Antwun Echols much less a prime RJJ.

Get off that coward's tiny package..

 

Antonio Tarver "Got any excuses tonight, Roy?"

 

Then two years later, he was making the same so called excuse against B Hop.

Tarver would have been dealt with relatively easily, pre Ruiz in my opinion.

 

You Yanktards want to make your minds up. Either he was untouchable throughout the 90's and the 2000's up until Tarver or he wasn't. Which is it?

According to you dick riders of steroid cheats he was superman, so how can have been shot by 2003?

 

He should have retired after the Ruiz fight. Moving back down was a mistake.

 

Making trolling comments and generally acting like an idiot will do that though. It's hardly a claim to fame now is it?

Noobs like you are ruining this site.

On topic though, no one is a lock to beat Jones Jr in his prime, whether you think he was on roids or not. He did what he did and beat who he did, so you can only go on the evidence in front of you. Whatever way you cut it, he's one of the most dominant and talented guys boxing has seen.

 

He'd be favourite over everyone but nobody is invincible all fighters who compete consistently at the highest level can have an off night or 2 and lose, it happened to Leonard against Duran and Robinson against Lamotta. It even happened to RJJ against Montell Griffin.

If RJJ had competed at a more consistently high level then he may have been beaten more than once in his prime or at least been seen to be more fallible than he is seen now.

If Griffin could give prime Jones Jr so much trouble, to the point Jones disqualified himself, is it unreasonable to think he could lose to fighters like prime Micheal Nunn, Hagler or Calzaghe on an off night?

Jones for all his natural talent did have weaknesses. His ring movement while quick was not smart, he tended to back himself onto the ropes all too often which is why Tarver and Griffin had so much success. Once on the ropes he used a very high guard exposing his body and because his guard was so high it was difficult for him to counter in this position unless his opponent stopped punching him allowing him to lower his hands into a position he could punch from.

I would find it hard to name 5 fighters that could do it though even on an off night, Jones was that damn good.

 

without a doubt robinson and carlos monzon
Tommy hearns and Sumbu Kalambay would potentially beat him, i think stylistically jones is all wrong for hagler.
Benn would have a great chance at Knocking him out at 168

 

Have to laugh at people that say Jones was unbeatable at 168 when he only had a handful of fights there and left the Division so he could avoid taking a risk.

Jones would get knocked cold by several fighters in history from 160-175. There is a reason he maneuvered through weight divisions. he simply didn't want to take any risks which is why HBO called him Reluctant Roy.

 

I wonder if dropping from 200 - 175 at 35, after 50 fights might have had a bearing on it? atsch

 

Good post, but Roy was never quite the same at 175, as what he was when he was 25/26 at 168.