Is Tyson Fury's win over Cunningham better than Haye's best win against Mormeck?

Prime Mormeck at Cruiserweight is better than the old shell of himself Cunningham that Fury knocked out.

Haye over Mormeck is a much greater win.

 

Prime Mormeck is a much better win than the old and very faded Cunningham that Fury just knocked out.

How the hell are you going to say "old midget Mormeck that Haye just about beat by the skin of his teeth" ?????? Fury had a bigger size advantage over Cunningham than Haye had over Mormeck. And both Fury and Haye struggled a little and were knocked down by their opponent before they came back and scored a KO themselves.

So, basically you look like a clown with this thread, Manning.

 

Computer froze, didn't think it posted the first one, my bad.

Maybe not prime, but a whole hell of a lot closer than Cunningham was to his prime.

There are 4 people in discussion in this thread. 3 of them are cruiserweights. 1 is a very big HW who has always been a HW. You're saying that the big HW who beat the near 40 year old cruiserweight in his third ever fight at HW is better than Haye beating a lineal champion in Mormeck?

You are crazy if you honestly believe Fury's win is better than Haye's. You cannot be serious with that.

Are you familiar at all with Mormeck or Cunningham's careers?

 

This.

 

Nah.

Haye had no huge weight advantage over Mormeck because it took place at CW. While Fury's height/weight surplus eventually gave him the opportunity to outlast the clearly superior boxer.

Don't like Haye, and think his antics at CW are quite overrated, but his win was clearly better and more significant.

 

1. Cunningham is 12 years older than Fury.
Mormeck is 8 years older than Haye.

2. So Mormeck was clearly on the slide when he went 1-1 against Bell in recent fights before facing Haye but Cunningham isn't clearly on the slide when he goes 0-2 against Yoan Pablo in his recent fights before facing Fury. In addition to the Troy Ross controversy (of which I am in the minority as seeing it as a legit Cunningham victory that he wasn't losing at the time of stoppage).

3. Mormeck is 5'11" to Haye's 6'3"
Cunningham is 6'3" to Fury's 6'9"

You know Fury is 6'9", why say 6'6" all of a sudden?

4. Mormeck was outweighed by half of a pound by Haye.
Cunningham was outweighed by 44 pounds by Fury.

That is a difference of 43.5 pounds additional weight.

Size doesn't focus on height. In boxing size implies weight much more. There are no height divisions, after all.

5. I will not be voting for about the same.

The answer is very much decisive.

Haye over Mormeck >>>>>>> Fury over Cunningham

 

Fury isn't 6'6 he's 6'9 so had a 6 inch height advantage as well as a 44lbs weight advantage over Cunningham.

Haye vs Mormeck was at Cruiserweight so they weighted about the same unlike Fury vs Cunningham where Fury had a clear advantage.

It's clear to me Haye's win over Mormeck was better. Mormeck was seen as the clear number 1 of the division being the WBC and WBA champion while Fury vs Cunningham was nowhere near as significant, just one contender facing off against a former cruiserweight champion who had lost 3 out of his last 4 fights, though he should have got the decision over Adamek.

 

In the context of Haye vs Fury only, the wins aren't dissimilar.

Both got knocked down and got up to win by KO.

Mormeck was 35 when 26 year old Haye fought him and Cunningham 35 when 24 year old Fury fought him :good

And if Fury is 6'6, then Wlad must be 6'3 judging by photos of them together .... Which in turn means David Haye is 5'11

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Haye & Klitschko height difference: http://beatsboxingmayhem.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/hayeklitschko2.jpg

 

Fury's win over Cunningham isn't even close to Haye over Mormeck.

Cunningham will only ever be a journeyman at HW. I'd like to think he's capable of besting some good HWs on a good night, but he'll never be a contender, and he is past his prime.

Mormeck at CW was a multi-title world champion, and Ring Magazine champion. Arguably the best in the division at the time.

The level of competition isn't even close. Ironically, the Mormeck win would be the equivalent of Fury beating Haye. Certainly not Cunningham.

 

no...mormeck while past prime was still champion..uss stepped up a weight and was fighting a superheavyweight..if anything furys being knocked down was more embarassing than hayes (when comparing the two fights)

 

Mormeck was extremely solid at cruiserweight, disregard the fat sloppy heavyweight
guy. Other than the shootout with Bell in the first fight, he was basically a tank.
Hayes win over Mormeck at cruiser is far more impressive than Fury's win at
heavyweight or U.S.S. Cunningham