more issues with JMM-Bradley testing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Macwitdacheese, Jul 30, 2013.


  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    This testing crap is getting out of hand.
     
  2. Do you think its suspicious on JMM side of the deal?

    17 days lays for the testing :huh
     
  3. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    Hope marquez is not juicing :(
     
  4. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a relatively simple process that Top Rank is trying to complicate for some reason.
     
  5. Exactly. The contract says USADA VADA but nope. Something is up
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's the problem with these tests, each organization has their own way of testing and if anyone refuses a certain organization they instantly get labeled. Fighters have been tested after fights for a long time now, not sure why this became an issue now. Just adds more complications to an already complicated sport. First we have countless championship belts with their own sets of rules and rankings and now we're going to have countless testing organizations with their own sets of rules.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    If it was a simple process we wouldn't have these issues. It might look simple on paper but it's far more complicated down under. Top Rank knows this and are playing around accordingly.
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    JMM has been clean his whole career

    When he fought Pacquaio 4th time, i feel he MIGHT have drugged up, to make it an even playing field with the long time Filipino roider

    Dont know what the situation is here

    But JMM better be careful

    Its pretty obvious hes spent the majority of his career as a clean boxer who relies on incredibly refined skill. He's never been a Pacquiao, Mosley, Jones type blatant roider relying on ridiculous reflexes, stamina, durability and punching power. But, if hes not careful, he could get tagged amongst them

    I have a feeling JMM is finished, and whatever happens with this fight, he needs to hang them up afterwards
     
  9. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Pretty much.

    JMM has stated numerous times that he would be willing to do any tests, VADA, USADA, whatever....It's Arum the one who has brought up this whole WADA ****.
     
  10. kommieforniaglo

    kommieforniaglo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley left Shaw for Arum, in exchange for the Pac fight, smart move right? Make a pact with the Devil and see what happens.


    Arum knows Marquez is the bigger name, and brings more money, meaning Arum would force Bradley in the ring while Marquez roids up and carries a baseball bat into the ring.
     
  11. The thing is.. VADA uses Carbon Isotope which apparently is the only test that can detect synthetic testosterone. They use this method 100% of the time which is why Bradley is pushing for it, and rightfully so. Its in the contract. Not WADA
     
  12. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry, it is relatively simple. There a ton of fights that get done without a hitch using WADA regulated blood and urine testing. Arum says he wants The Nevada State Athletic Commission to handle it even though they currently aren't setup to do so. That's what you call complicating the issue. This is not the first time Arum has done this.
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's exactly my point. He knows there are holes to exploit and is merely playing accordingly. This entire topic will remain exploitable by the big boys for a long time, pretty much the same way rankings are exploitable.
     
  14. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is only partially correct. If VADA was truly the only org that could detect synthetic testosterone, then all the other orgs would be useless. What happens is that a normal T/E ratio is 1/1. WADA regulated orgs will not test for synthetic testosterone unless the T/E ratio is greater than 4/1. VADA does so if the ratio is over 1/1. I'm no expert, so I don't know what the ratio has to be in order for someone to have a material athletic advantage.