Tony Thompson vs. Kubrat Pulev

Not on his own, he can't. Not unless Russia brings in the big guns and Wlad collapses mid fight. Or we see a new Povetkin, a mountain of rippling muscle and relentless determination.

One thing for sure though, Rusada won't find a single thing wrong in Povetkin's samples, even he does come into the ring a 225 lb hulk of a man.

 

OMG if Wlad does fight Povetkin and loses the excuses from his mental case fans are going to be funny as hell. But I still think Wlad is going to pull out of this fight and fight Chisora. That is what all this fake brawl at the gay bar **** is all about.

 

I ask you again, do you have any proof that they were in a gay bar? the brawling part is not true, both guys admitted there was no fighting, just some discussion

 

manning tell me what in povetkins arsenal can give wlad a problem..enlighten me..

povetkin only wins this if wlad shites himself from being in russia and lets the fans get to him or there is any funny business

 

As a Russian speaking man, I've been following the Wlad-Sasha circus for many years *7 to be exact*. I also have an intimate understand of boxing, having boxed myself, and do not use personal preferences, racial prejudice or penile dimensions when making a boxing prediction.

Now, I know you're just a racist, repressed troll thatis living his repressions out through boxing forums, but try to comprehend this: Povetkin winning would be illogical.

In boxing, styles make fights. Sanders beat Wlad because he was a big, fast southpaw, with a powerful punch, complete lack of fear and, as it turns out, a perfectly timed counter for the huge defensive hole Wlad used to leave after his attack. Plus, his chin was very solid.

Brewster was a fearless, go forward, pressure fighter with a solid punch and a great recovery (his chin wasn't as good as Cories, but he could recover very quickly). Plus he had the added benefit of Wlad's mental issues and the whole poisoning bs, which definitely took place, whether it was an actual poison or Wlad's team ****ing up with the supplements.

And the last but not least, Purity, was an indestructible, solid B level boxer, with a good punch and a heart of a lion. He simply waited out the storm and finished Wlad when he had no energy to stand, let alone box. Wlad was in his twenties at the time, and was trying to show off in front of the home crowd.

So what we have is a combination of mental issues, inexperience, poor energy management, physiological problems, and of course, a case of a big bad puncher southpaw. Povetkin won't benefit from any of this. He is an orthodox fighter, he punches average or slightly above average, and he is facing the best version of Wlad, one that is emotionally and physically stable, plus incredibly experienced. The main things Sasha has going for him are his iron chin, his typical Russian fearlessness, his excellent ameteur pedigree and the freedom to take all the peds he wants/needs. Plus the fight is in his backyard.

The chance of him winning clean are best illustrated mathematically, as a limit of 1/x as x approaches infinity. Boxing will suffer a great loss if Wlad loses, and I for one hope that it will be the best man, and not the suspicious circumstances, that will get the victory that day.

 

I think when we look at the basics to defeating Wlad the main weapons in the arsenal for the task must be.

The willingness (being prepared) to get hit in order to land you're own shots off. You need to be very sturdy, great chin. You have to force Wlad into a war but at the same time you need the power, movement and hand speed to do the damage when in range. Tactically and fitness wise The Huck fight was a disaster for Povetkin. But he did show in that fight which was his worst as a professorial insane heart, commitment and willingness to win at all costs. One knock down would have cost him that fight but to his credit he did everything in his power to stop that.

I feel he has the hand speed and movement (i know you disagree with that part) to cause serious damage to Wlad in the inside, I think he can even disrupt Wlad's clinching style when in close with his precise countering.

Needs to show the same stamina he showed prior to the Atlas team up disaster. Under Tzyu he's looked far, far better and supposedly according to Tzyu his fitness and stamina levels are at his best yet. Although we haven't had the chance to see this yet what with the WBA forcing Rahmnan on him and Rahman then pulling out late for that fight, rearranging that fight and wasting almost a year... The Warcheck (spelling) fight looked very promising too although obviously he's at a poor level, but just like Rahman he destroyed him easily within a couple of rounds showing great handspeed and countering.

Conclusion. We will see the best version of Povetkin come fight night. In spectacular condition and now we know he also has the heart and will to win due to the Huck fight. As tough as it sounds I think he may be able to get through the jab and have success with his countering and let off a few combos. It's possible Wlad hasn't come up against this type of hand speed since Sanders.

Still Povetkin's an underdog but he ticks must (if not all) of the boxes that's needed to beat Wlad.

 

Let me tell you a funny thing about a chin. It's not really how good you can take a punch, its rather how well you can negate the effects of it, via head movement, subtle shifts, legwork etc. If you rely heavily on just your natural ability to take a punch, you are bound to hit the breaking point. And it can come completely out of nowhere, like in round 12 of Hatton-Collazo fight, or round 12 of Wlad-Peter fight.

Until this point, Povetkin demonstrated complete disregard for his opponents punching power, largely due to the fact that he hasn't faced any big punchers in decent shape. Old habits die very, very hard, and he is in for a rude awakening if he continues to play "catch the jab" with his face.

Now, Povetkin isn't as fast as you think. He is not faster than Sanders and he is definitely not faster than Haye. And there is another thing he is lacking compared to those 2: punching power and reach. Both Sanders and Haye have a reach advantage over Sasha, so not only did they punch faster, they also had to cover less distance.

I am not going to argue that Povetkin will show up in amazing shape, he is not Solis or the rest of the fat bunch. But that simply won't be enough. He is the third best heavyweight on the planet right now, but he will be tko'd or UD'd comfortably, by a man who has seen it all.

 

Povetkin is better than anyone Wlad has faced as sad as that is. But I'm telling you Wlad is not going to Russia to fight him because he is not in control. Just sit back and watch. Wlad will pull out of this fight mark my words.

 

I reckon he has faster hand speed compared to Haye. Obviously he doesn't have his foot speed though. Haye rarely shows great hand speed combos. Does he ever at all unless his opponent is stunned or badly hurt? It's all very well showing decent hand speed with no combos when you're just loading up with one of your 12 hayemakers thrown a round, an entirely different thing to keep a steady pace and pressure while throwing as Povetkin does.

 

I box also and have messed up teeth because of it. I don't care where you are from. Povetkin fights like a real man while Wlad jabs and grabs because his chin is pathetic. Yoou guys are already setting up excuses in case Wlad loses. Wlad can punch but he can't take a punch. All Povetkin has to do is hit Wlad to the body and Wlad will be **** by round 5 as we seen in the Brewster fight. The key to beating Wlad is to go to the body early. Watch his fight with Purity and Brewster 1. Povetkin is better than anyone Wlad has faced. Povetkin is in training while Wlad is at gay bars trying to get some black C*ck. But Wlad will pull out of this fight because he is a Pus*y.

 

Excellent response & analysis of Wlads 3 Ls - to a troll that doesn't deserve one.

It would be illogical. Btw you have derr all figured out
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As a math-stat guy I think AP has a bit better chance than that, esp. given the chicanery or fraud that might take place.

You really think AP will have the freedom to take all the peds he wants/needs? :think Hopefully it will be a clean fight.

 

True about the combination work, but we haven't seen combination work from Povetkin (or rather, the high output combination work) since he left Belov and joined Atlas.

Povetkin used to throw 1000 punches a fight, now he is down to a much more manageable 600-700 punches.

As for Haye, his punching power makes up for his volume. He doesn't need to throw 100 punches, if 10 will knock the guy out.

 

Why are you trying to bunch me up with others? I am talking to you directly, not some imaginary group of black supremacists with latent homo***ual tendencies. You on the other hand constantly used terms like "you guys, the crazy fan, you and other klitlickers" etc etc. It's almost like you want to write a good post but then something twitches and you go back to gay and racist guano.

Povetkin is hard at work, and I am extremely happy for him. I am proud that the battle for the undisputed king of the heavyweight division is taking place between my two countrymen, because it speaks volumes of the toughness of eastern europeans. I am glad you think Povetkin is Wlad's best opponent: I will remind you of that when Wlad wins handily.

I am repeating this again, and you can quote me. Clean, no cheating, Wlad will beat Povetkin 99 to 1. But Sasha is supported by very powerful, very dangerous men, and anything can happen.

 

That's why I said "clean", thats the key word here. Povetkin could have 8 times the normal testosterone levels and show superhuman conditioning, and Rusada won't find a damn thing. The whole corporation is tainted, it's president's sister was caught selling PED's on the side.

 

Wow, I know little about Rusada. I can only hope Wlad doesn't lose via underhanded methods.

You s/be proud of the East Euros.
After the break up of the SU I'd have guesstimated it would take them a full generation to equal never mind surpass the US in boxing. They have done it in about half that time !