Ward won't fight ever in UK, Denmark or Canada ...

The sad part is you'll never get a proper response or break down...For the longest, I've been trying to debate the key points on dethroning Ward...I've only got Ward isnt making that much money, Ward isnt fighting outside of Oakland ect. Nothing dealing with the actual tactics inside the ring. Thats the only thing that these bitter dudes have to cling to...And its pretty pathetic.:-(

 

bailey will debate you....bailey could find a silver lining in a bucket of poop, if the poop was british

 

I know he would but I seriously doubt that his boxrec detective work will proplerly break down the key points that Froch or any other fighter will have to do to beat Ward.

 

Are you Simple Jack? You must be cause you're a complete idiot. Warddke didin't had to unify ****, as him and his fans wanted him protected at all costs. Showtime wanted to build their own Mayweater and invested millions in Warddke, had him the easy way in super6 and they gave him a bum with a belt in order for Warddke to cement his legacy and make him a ppv star. And what's Warddke doing? Duck Bute like the clown he is and make Showtime loose millions in the process. This is your idiol, a spineless disgrace with no balls who only wants to be left alone to fight in his home town

 

Sven Ottke's resume and the venues of his fights:

Res. Record Opponent Type Round

Time Date Location Notes
Win 34–0 Sweden Armand Krajnc UD 12 2004–03–27

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Retained IBF and Super WBA
Super middleweight titles.

Win 33–0 England Robin Reid UD 12 2003–12–13

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Retained IBF and Super WBA
Super middleweight titles.

Win 32–0 Denmark Mads Larsen MD 12 2003–09–06

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Retained IBF and Super WBA
Super middleweight titles.

Win 31–0 England David Starie UD 12 2003–06–14

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Retained IBF and Super WBA
Super middleweight titles.

Win 30–0 United States Byron Mitchell SD 12 2003–03–15

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, Berlin Retained IBF and won Super WBA
Super middleweight titles.

Win 29–0 Denmark Rudy Markussen UD 12 2002–11–16

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 28–0 Canada Joe Gatti TKO 9 (12)
2:43 2002–08–24

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 27–0 United States Thomas Tate UD 12 2002–06–01

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 26–0 Australia Rick Thornberry UD 12 2002–03–16

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 25–0 Australia Anthony Mundine KO 10 (12) 2001–12–01

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 24–0 United States James Butler UD 12 2001–09–01

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 23–0 France Ali Ennebati TKO 11 (12)
2:28 2001–06–29

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 22–0 United States James Crawford KO 8 (12)
2:52 2001–03–24

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 21–0 Italy Silvio Branco UD 12 2000–12–16

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 20–0 United States Charles Brewer SD 12 2000–09–02

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 19–0 United States Tocker Pudwill UD 12 2000–06–03

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 18–0 Jamaica Lloyd Brian UD 12 2000–03–11

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 17–0 Jamaica Glen Johnson UD 12 1999–11–27

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 16–0 United States Thomas Tate TD 11 (12)
0:25 1999–09–04

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 15–0 Dominican Republic Gabriel Hernández UD 12 1999–05–08

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 14–0 Italy Giovanni Nardiello KO 3 (12)
2:30 1999–02–27

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Retained IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 13–0 United States Charles Brewer SD 12 1998–10–24

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Won IBF Super middleweight title.

Win 12–0 Netherlands William Krijnen UD 10 1998–08–22

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Win 11–0 Croatia Asmir Vojnović UD 12 1998–05–30

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Won WBC International
Light heavyweight title.

Win 10–0 France Stephane Nizard UD 8 1998–03–21

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Win 9–0 United States Allen Smith DQ 5 (?) 1998–02–28

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Win 8–0 Germany Ali Saidi UD 10 1997–12–13

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Won German Light heavyweight title.

Win 7–0 Russia Roman Babaev UD 8 1997–10–18

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Win 6–0 Venezuela Fermin Chirino UD 6 1997–08–30

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Win 5–0 Russia Yuri Filipko UD 8 1997–06–22

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Win 4–0 England Andy Flute UD 6 1997–06–01

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Win 3–0 Russia Teymuraz Kekelidze PTS 6 1997–04–26

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Win 2–0 England Jason Hart TKO 2 (6)
1:44 1997–04–13

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Win 1–0 United States Eric Davis PTS 6 1997–03–22

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Andre Ward's resume and the venues of his fights:


Res. Record Opponent Type Round,
Time Date Location Notes
Win 26–0 United States Chad Dawson TKO 10 2012-09-08

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Retained WBA (Super) and won WBC & vacant The Ring super-middleweight titles.

Won Super Six World Boxing Classic tournament.
Win 25–0 United Kingdom Carl Froch UD 12 2011-12-17

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Retained WBA (Super) and won WBC & vacant The Ring super-middleweight titles.

Won Super Six World Boxing Classic tournament.
Win 24–0 Armenia Arthur Abraham UD 12 2011-05-14

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Retained WBA (Super) super-middleweight title.

Win 23–0 Cameroon Sakio Bika UD 12 2010-11-27

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Retained WBA (Super) super-middleweight title.

Win 22–0 United States Allan Green UD 12 2010-06-19

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Retained WBA (Super) super-middleweight title.

Win 21–0 Denmark Mikkel Kessler TD 11 (12),
1:42 2009-11-21

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Won WBA (Super) super-middleweight title.

Win 20–0 United States Shelby Pudwill TKO 3 (10),
2:16 2009-09-12

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Win 19–0 Colombia Edison Miranda UD 12 2009-05-16

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Retained NABO and NABF super-middleweight titles.

Win 18–0 United States Henry Buchanan UD 12 2009-02-06

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Retained NABO super-middleweight title.
Won vacant NABF super-middleweight title.

Win 17–0 Mexico Esteban Camou TKO 3 (10),
2:46 2008-12-13

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Win 16–0 United States Jerson Ravelo TKO 8 (12),
2:37 2008-06-20

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Won vacant NABO super-middleweight title.

Win 15–0 United States Rubin Williams TKO 7 (10),
2:51 2008-03-20

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Win 14–0 United States Roger Cantrell

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(10),
1:56 2007-11-16

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Win 13–0 United States Francisco Diaz TKO 3 (8),
2:59 2007-07-14

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Win 12–0 United States Dhafir Smith

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(8),
2:47 2007-05-17

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Win 11–0 Haiti Julio Jean TKO 3 (8),
2:04 2007-03-29

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Win 10–0 United States Derrick Findley UD 6 2006-11-16

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Win 9–0 United States Andy Kolle RTD 6 (8),
3:00 2006-04-29

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Win 8–0 United States Kendall Gould UD 6 2006-02-23

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Win 7–0 United States Darnell Boone UD 6 2005-11-19

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Win 6–0 United States Glenn LaPlante KO 1 (6),
2:59 2005-10-01

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Win 5–0 United States Christopher Holt RTD 3 (6),
3:00 2005-08-18

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Win 4–0 United States Ben Aragon TKO 3 (6),
0:59 2005-06-18

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Win 3–0 United States Roy Ashworth DQ 3 (6),
2:56 2005-04-07

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Win 2–0 United States Kenny Kost UD 6 2005-02-10

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Win 1–0 United States Chris Molina TKO 2 (4),
0:40 2004-12-18

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Both have pretty much similar resumes in terms of fight venues.

Ottke has 1 fight outside Germany i.e in Austria and Ward has 1 fight outside his country in the Cayman Islands.

Wrong ! Ward also fought in Beausejour Cricket Ground, Gros Islet, Saint Lucia ... so he travelled more than his mentor ( Ottke ) .....

 

Hatton got rough in there, but he didn't cheat. it was ugly to watch because he kept on smothering his work, but he did the right thing really. staying on the outside for Kostya's right hand isn't a good idea.

i said the Manfredo stoppage was bull****. so why say it again? what other fights from Joe were bad?

Malik was stopped within the rules of boxing. you have to be upright before the count of 10. he wasn't. he ****ed up.
he was able to continue, no doubt. but to confuse that with corruption is bull****. he missed the count. that's his fault and no one else.

Froch has a better resume than Ward. and Calzaghe pisses all over the resume of Froch.

so keep dreaming.

oh, and go and drink some water. you'll get rid of that bitter taste then. :good

 

atsch

not one person is banking on the ref and judges. Ward can play a part who does the job, but he has to fight within the rules.
plus, fighting away from home is a lot different than fighting where everything is comfortable for you. you know, having the ref and judges that you're saying are waiting for him if he fights in the UK.

clown.

and if fighting away wasn't a problem, then why didn't Ward do it? :think everybody else did.

 

because no one is picking Froch for the win you idiot. how many times do you need to be ****ing told this? are you that ****ing simple or something?

all anyone is saying is that Froch deserves a rematch at home. it makes more money in the UK.
Froch fought over there the first time, now it's Ward who needs to travel.

or is Ward that much of a ***** that he doesn't need to travel even when it makes more sense?

the constant stupidity that you show is remarkable to say the least.

 

You through ranting you sissy punk *****??:rofl

Get it through your fucking head boy, Froch is in no position to dictate a damn thing to Ward, what part is your dumbass not understanding?

 

Cool story hoe.

 

fine, let Ward rot. no one is interested in watching him. no one is interested in fighting in his backyard.
he can dictate to thin air, because he won't be dictating to anyone. :deal

so sit back and watch Ward get no where. no one gives a **** about him. he'll be ignored while the division continues to move forwards.

without Ward.

 

pretty much this ^ :good

Ward will stay in Oakland "calling the shots" as he always likes to say and the other fighters will fight each other and cash in ! :yep

 

Froch and Ward could fight in Monte Carlo. A neutral ground.

 

any fighter with decent ability can cash in...ottke, sturm and many other Europeans especially, have avoided the US and got rich

bottom line is that once the US networks are onboard then they call the shots, including fighting the best opposition. the reward is you become the universally recognised as the legit champion (like ward), instead of paper belt holders

 

Well Ward did a lot of the same you said Froch would do if he ever faced Ward in the UK:yep