Jerry Quarry vs. Joe Bugner

Bugner UD.

Bugner at his best should take this without to much trouble. His style was somewhat similar to Ali's, dancing around jabbing and boxing, and his reach, movement and boxing skills would frustrate Quarry. Of course Bugner was no way near the fighter that Ali was, but my feeling is he would still be to much for Quarry. And he is the much bigger man as you said.

Only problem is, Bugner was rarley at his best. And Quarry had hart, so you never know.

 

Id take Quarry by decision. Quicker hands, good snappy counter puncher. While its true that Bugner had height he had nowhere near Ali`s speed or even Ali`s pop. Mostly a negative defensive fighter. I think Jerry scores a knockdown on his way to a comfortable decision win.

 

Joe Bugner was overly defensive and boring at times, but Quarry had problems withstick and move fighters. Not just Ali, but Machen and Ellis aswell.

 

That is true.

Bugner does have a shot if he can cut Qurry with his jab.

The reason I pick Quarry is that Bugner wasnt offensive minded enough and I dont believe he has enough pop to keep Quarry at bay. Machen was probably preprime version of Jerry.

 

Bugner was a solid HW but in the hell makes him that much better than '70 Foster or '69 Mathis in their primes?

 

Fair enough, Bugner did a have tendency to bore judges to sleep.

 

I don't see this Bugner flurried with his jab but there was no steam on it ,and he was no dancer in the ring.
Quarry beats him all ends up, he beat better guys than Bugner and would have too much for Joe.
Take a look at Bugner v Bodell and Quarry v Bodell.

 

Not a dancer like Ali, but he could move. Lyle is a better fighter than Bugner, but he didnt have the strongest chin and he always came to fight. Quarry isnt stopping Joe, and as i said, i dont think Quarry was comfortable with stick and move fighters. The longer the fight would go the more frustrated Quarry would be. As i see it the outcome depends on Bugners activity level. If he could keep his jab going all the time, move around the ring and clinch when quarry gets close, i think he would cruise himself to a decision.

 

I did this one around four years ago. Great minds think alike


It would have been a logical fight for both men circa 1973/74. For Quarry a chance to re-establish himself in the title picture,and Bugner would have shown us what he'd learnt from his first fight with Muhammad Ali and his one with Joe Frazier.


I've always thought Andy Smith,Joe's manager,strange for dropping Joe back down several levels after his bout with Frazier. In between the Frazier fight in July '73 and his second fight with Ali two years later,having easy nights with the likes of Pedro Lovell taught Bugner nothing.


If, and I say a BIG if,Bugner really pulls out all the stops,he would be able to win a close decision over Jerry. More than likely,though,Quarry takes it. By around two points.

 

Weird matchup, one on the way down by early 74 and one on the way up at that point (although boring). No way Jerry knocks out Bugner (his power was a tad overrated against the top boys) For all you that want to mention Shavers, relax and take a deep breath Interesting that it's hard to actually determine when each of them were actually in their 'prime'. IMO in a prime matchup, if Jerry could slip the Bugner jab, he might be able to counter him to death in route to a UD. But the bigger Joe would do the 'tie him up' thing over and over and perhaps cop a decision.
As would a prime Terrell against Jerry (another fighter that Jerry wouldn't knock out but had a chance for the same reasons)
In closing, how about a prime Bugner vs. a prime Terrell (is there a snooze icon available?) You'de have to pay me to take a ringside seat for that snoozefest!

 

Re read your last line ! Joe did better against the first TWO names.

 

I don't know ... Quarry in my opinion has become slight over rated ... he was tough and gutsy and had the chin and counter punching skills to exploit some big sluggers for sure , among them Lyle and Shavers but for the most part he came up short or look average against anyone that could box .. an old Patterson, a blown up Ellis and was clearly a huge class below Ali and Frazier ... Bugner was talented but seemed to lack that something extra .. he had no punch but had size, some strength, speed, skill, could box and had a terrific chin ... somehow I think if highly motivated Quarry outworks him and wins a decision ...

 

For a while in the early seventies,Joe and Jerry were 'the best of the rest' under the big four of Ali,Foreman,Frazier and Norton. This bout SHOULD have happened.