Freddie Roach calls Marquez a p****

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by mellamomarcos, Aug 9, 2013.


  1. Desert Storm

    Desert Storm 31-0 Full Member

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    Bradley will defeat the roided up Marquez so all this talk isn't even going to matter, but to answer the thread.

    Marquez is even lucky to have received a 3rd fight in the first place. Going 0-1-1 (which technically should've been 0-2 had the judge counted correctly - which he later went on record to apologize for his mistake) doesn't even prompt for a rubber match. Morales and Pac split their first 2 fights so a rubbermatch was inevitable. Losing 1 and drawing out of two fights shouldn't warrant a rubbermatch. On top of that, while Pac was moving up in weight, Marquez was beating up B level fighter Juan Diaz (twice) and Katsidis (where are these guys now) and lost a shut out 12-0 to Floyd, those right there are even more reasons to warrant that a 3rd fight is useless, yet he was still fortunate enough to have received it. Finally he gets a 3rd fight, only to hire a known steroid cheat and take steroids and still lose. A 4th fight was a knockout waiting to happen and it did. Pac and his team should've left it at 2 fights since Marquez did nothing to deserve a 3rd, after the 3rd, Pac and his team set himself up for that knockout, especially with escaping the roided version of Marquez once.
     
  2. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It took Pac three years to finally accept the third:lol:

    You're just one bitter, whiny and extremely biased poster. Your obsession with Marquez is ruining you:deal
     
  3. Desert Storm

    Desert Storm 31-0 Full Member

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    Explain what Marquez did to become awarded for a 3rd fight. After the first fight, he denied a rematch only to fight for peanuts and lose to Chris John. A second fight occurs and he still loses. Pac moved onto bigger fish while Marquez fought Juan Diaz. He loses to Mayweather in a shut out, then fights bums in Mexico. Yea he really deserved a shot.

    Morales beat Pac, forcing a 3rd fight. Marquez drank his urine and fought bum after bums.

    You're one bitter, whiny and extremely biased poster. Your obsession with bothering me and not putting anything of note towards the thread is running you
     
  4. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    the record should be 1-3 in favor of jmm. they robbed him twice. he left no doubt the last time when he took it out of the judges hands. no need to revisit that. pac did worse each time out. a fifth fight would only end in a ko loss for pac again.
     
  5. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The old, "I'll try to turn the tables around" trick:lol:
     
  6. kirk

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    So..... you think that after JMM clearly outboxed Pac in the 3rd fight, that Pac deciding to go at him again in the 4th fight, was a cherry pick?

    :-(
     
  7. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After their 2nd fight at 130, Pacman decided to jump up in weight to 135 and take on arguably the weakest titleholder in David Diaz, who is nothing more than a glorified club fighter. Marquez knew the only way he was going to get a 3rd fight was to chase up the weight classes after Pacman, and he took on a much more formidable challenger in Babybull Diaz who at the time was considered the best lightweight on the planet (since Casamyor was on the shelf for sooo long.)

    So the idea that pacman was taking on "greater' fighters in his ascension up the ranks is not only silly to say, but completely baseless and without any merit. Juan Diaz is in another class compared to David Diaz, whose biggest victory was an extremely washed up El terrible Morales.
     
  8. Desert Storm

    Desert Storm 31-0 Full Member

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    David Diaz beat Morales (don't say morales was shot because many still say Morales beat Maidana and held his own with Garcia). If Diaz was just "another champion" then complain to boxing for having so many belts and "champions". Manny went after a champion, it just so happened to be Diaz. Are you trying to say if Manny fought Diaz he would've lost? After his fight with Diaz, Manny moved up more weight classes and excelled beating Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto. Marquez tried to move up, only to get shut out 12-0. Then he went back down and beat C+/B- Katsidis and knocked a couple of bums out in mexico.

    It's silly and completely baseless to think Marquez ever decided a 3rd fight when he didn't do anything. Bradley is the man who worked his way up and deserved his fight against Pac, not Marquez.

    So you tell me, what did Marquez do to merit his shots. Sure he beat Baby bull (twice), so? Baby bull isn't a future HOF is he. Who else has Marquez beaten to deserve the fight.

    When Bradley beats Marquez, he will stop this myth of Marquez being so great, Marquez looks great because he beat a guy that everyone thought he shouldn't, but he couldn't do it without the help of steroids. Marquez has never been put in with a guy like Bradley, you'll see what happens. His steroids still won't help him against Desert Storm.
     
  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Lets not forget that while Juan was indeed better then David, he himself was one fight removed from getting beat up by Campbell when Marquez fought him. And that washed up Morales went on to give plenty of good fighters trouble after that (althought personally I think the Morales vs Diaz fight is controversial). Regardless, that win is not entirely void of value, regardless of how past it Morales was or how close the fight was.
     
  10. Desert Storm

    Desert Storm 31-0 Full Member

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    Exactly, people talk about how Pac's opponents were defeated by so and so, yet never even mention Diaz when Marquez beat him. If Pac were to beat Diaz, it would've been the same story with he just lost to Campbell. There's no winning for that guy. People like to repeat what other idiots say which only make them even bigger idiots.

    Hilarious how so many people call Morales "shot to ****" when Pac beat him, yet they feel so foolish when this "shot to ****" Morales supposedly "defeats" Maidana.

    This is why Bradley is the best. He's fought everyone and he's won. 30 have tried, 30 have failed. A roided Marquez will be just another notch on the belt.
     
  11. TonyAlmeida

    TonyAlmeida Member Full Member

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    What a beouchdag
     
  12. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roach is mad. He's mad at Marquez, he's mad at Mayweather, he's mad at Bradley and probably mad at himself.
     
  13. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** Pacquiao. There's no need for a fifth fight and Marquez would be stupid to do it. He sealed the deal with that last performance, so why back peddle when there's nothing more to proof. The only thing we haven't seen in the first four fights was Marquez get KO.
     
  14. Stilt Skinner?

    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    Bradley? :lol::lol: he's not Mayweather ffs and he sure as hell won't outbox Marquez.
     
  15. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think this is a 50/50 fight. Bradley Can win, it really is which Bradley shows up?
    The Bradley that fought Provodnikov will lose for sure. Getting careless with JMM is not smart( just ask Manny). If he fights like he did with Pac and Alexander he may have a chance.