Is Andre Ward REALLY #2 P4P?

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  1. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats Bull**** i dont get why fighters cant be considered p4p unless they fight in 2 or 3 weights, i mean what if a guy has dominated and totally cleared out his division does that not make him p4p, i consider the list in terms of who has the most ability not number of weight divisions they have won titles in, sure Broner is a 3 weight champion but hasnt fought anyone that great, and Ward is much better then him so of course Ward desrves to be no 2 he is the no 2 fighter in the world in terms to ability
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Difference being, Holyfield was undisputed in both divisions, whereas Haye was unified at cruiser and a mere alphabet "titlist" at heavy.
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's still the first guy since Holy to even make it that far.
     
  4. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rigo and GGG are both very good but can't be P4P with so few fights at top level
    Froch? Now I know you are joking
     
  5. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Keep that **** in mind!
     
  6. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :yep in less than what 27 fights?? Probably won't be done again anytime soon, give him his props.
     
  7. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward is #1 p4p. He is the big **** in boxing right now wether you like to admit it or not. Ever since Sports Illustrated ran that piece meant he was the big ****. I really want him to call out floyd at 160 and whoop his ****ing ass. Nobody beats him, and he shits all over GGG. Everyone is running scared from this guy, its hilarious. And please don't bring up Kovelav.
     
  8. J'abe'r

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    you need a reality check holmes, Warddke is semi-retired, he only wishes to fight vegetables and mummies in Oakland.
     
  9. bailey

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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post. It is very difficult with the possible weight differences between CW and what HW can go up to. There was a big weight difference to Haye and Valuev
     
  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I have Marquez #2 and Ward #3
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    With the mythical P4P how does anyone have Ward above - Mayweather, Marquez, W Klitschko and V Klitschko, Martinez, Rigondeaux, Mares, Gonzalez, Donaire, Pacquiao, and could see arguements for Broner, Cotto, Haye, Hopkins, Garcia, Bradley, John.

    With those names how do people think Ward has done so much? Kessler is Wards biggest win and he had been beaten by the previous champ and hadnt mixed in top world class for around 3 years
     
  13. Xerant

    Xerant Gotta Hate negociations! Full Member

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    Peeps like you are so cute. As ****ing if u don't know who the #1 is. U must be one of the kool kids.
     
  14. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Undisputed just means you collected the 4 major belts but what was more impressive about Haye was that he became Lineal champ at CW, or in other words, he beat the man who beat the man etc and accomplished all of that in very few fights. That alphabet title Haye picked up at HW was against the biggest HW of all time who had only lost once before.

    Holyfield is no doubt greater than Haye but dont downplay what David did as a boxer because he certainly did achieve significantly in the game.
     
  15. bigeddie27

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