Has Juan Manuel Marquez lost more respect than any other boxer lately?

Nope respected more,irony it is mostly Pac fans saying he is on roids,if he is irony he beats a another juiced fighter.

 

Totally agree.

Its the same people that defended pac during the Floyd pac negotiations, that are now forgetting what they used to defend pac

"innocent until guilty"
"Hes never failed a test"
"Why oes he have to prove anything"
blah blah blah

It was the perfect shot, and lets be honest Pacs ability to take a shot has gone down.

 

when?

 

He turned down random blood testing, up to the day of the fight.

Did Bradley ask for drug testing before there fight?

Marquez I think wanted testing before the 3rd or 4th fight.

 

Well hiring known Ped dealers create suspicion for all 3 fighters more for Marquez because his victory was so high profile, no one really paid attention to nonito because if his loss and wards been out of action.

But what I don't understand is why could't they just go with other s&c coaches who don't have tainted reputations.

I mean conte and memo dont look like they've trained a day in there lives to giving advise to boxers about s&c

 

Bashing Marquez is mostly a ******* thing on this board, and who can blame them after KTFO6!

The irony of it all when once *******s defended the ridiculous excuses for Pacquiao not wanting PED testing vs Mayweather..

In this case with Marquez, he's not coming out with the excuses Pacquiao so embarrsingly laid out in trying to defend his stance.
Marquez is allready being tested of blood and urine as we speak.
They can get at him randomly anytime to test him.

The main issue *******s have clinged to is Marquez not dropping his pants and bending over so that Tim Bradley can dry hump him.
Bradley is within his rights to ask for VADA testing, but so is to Marquez' team for saying no, in the knowing that Angel Heredia's biggest critic and enemy advises the other side whish is VADA.

Angel Heredia is responsible for landing Victor Conte in jail and now *******s feel he's being a ***** for not submitting his fighter (Marquez) to testing under VADA which Victor Conte advises and supports. :nut


Look at the difference between the comportment of team Marquez during this issue of Bradley pointing fingers and the comportment of team Pacquiao when under scrutiny for renaging on testing for the Mayweather fight.
The difference is night and day. Marquez' side acted like the professionals they are while Pacquiao's side came up with ridiculous excuses right after the other.
"Aaaahhhhh, during that time, I'm in heeaaavvvvyy training, so I cannot take the test druing that time!" :nut

 

I have no idea what Marquez puts in his body behind closed doors. However, any athlete who transforms their physique that dramatically at his age...eyebrows are going to be raised. Then throw in strength/conditioning guys of questionable reputation...

Is it fair? I dunno it is what it is that's the world we live in. Have we seen already accomplished athletes transform their bodies using banned substances late in their careers? Yeah. Boxers specifically? Yeah. So no one should be surprised at the talk or take offense like you're a Marquez family friend.

Have I lost respect for the guy? Nah I'm a fan. Am I suspicious? Yeah I can't help it.

 

To be fair you just have to look at the training he did for the Mayweather fight, lifting rocks and stuff to gain weight.

Outside of that fight Marquez has always been ripped.

 

this is what an honest, logical post looks like.

 

Again I can't help being suspicious. I love the guy but as an avid American sports fan I've seen guys in their 30s in many sports performing great feats that turn out to be ped induced. Baseball, football, cycling...no it's not fair to paint with a broad brush but its just the way it is

Late 30s + before/after physique + performance in question = ________ (insert unfounded suspicion based on other athletes being busted)

It's all circumstantial and he's never been popped. But for the reasons I stated earlier its just the way it is. Again I love the guy but I'm a bit jaded as many sports fans are.

 

Come in in the best shape of his career at his oldest.... yup...knock down and out a guy you couldn't on three previous attempts..... yup

 

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Perfect example of what this is all about. Simply a bunch of *******s
who ha gone MIA and suddenly found a reason to return.

Still can't get over KTFO6:deal

 

They are all on Peds,if you dont think they are you have your head in the sand

 

The guy is a steroid cheat with a steroid cheat distributor and only wants to be tested by the company that his steroid cheat friend runs.

 

That's what I really don't understand, either. Ward and Donaire invite suspicion that otherwise wouldn't be there by hiring Conte, and JMM made people do a triple take because they were already speculating because of his transformation.

Ironically, they've gotten more attention for it than fighters who've actually been busted while working with "nobodies" like Gamboa.