Stop comparing Ali to any fighters of our era

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iWantToLearnEng, Aug 11, 2013.


  1. True_Hero

    True_Hero Guest

    I agree. Ali was great, but was he the greatest heavyweight of all time? No way. He was the most memorable, certainly. But it seems he's said "I'm the greatest" so often now that people just believe it.

    Wlad
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    Tyson
    Lewis
    Holyfield
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    All would beat/have beaten Ali. If Ali was boxing today he'd be regarded as a top ten boxer who is clearly a step behind the Klitschko brothers. For me the greatest heavyweight of all time isn't the guy who said "I'm the greatest" until everybody believes it or the guy who was the most memorable, but the one who would beat all other competition. For me, that is Wlad Klitschko.

    No other heavyweight would be able to beat current Wlad. Fact. That makes him the greatest.
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    lamon brewster, ross purity and corrie sanders can all stop him...but Ali couldnt? :rofl how old are you 12? just WOW with your comment :rofl:rofl
     
  3. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal

    (hope you get my sarcasm though)
     
  4. True_Hero

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    Learn to read, ******.

    I said CURRENT Wlad. As in the current version of Wlad who has perfected his boxing style that he is unbeatable. Yes, he got stopped in the past but he has learnt from those stoppages. Now, he is utterly unstoppable. CURRENT Wlad would beat any of the supposed "greatest" heavyweights. Fact.
     
  5. Urone2

    Urone2 Active Member Full Member

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    If you hate Mayweather you would hate Ali, because the heavyweights of today would have as much of a chance to hit him as the welter weights hit Mayweather. If you look at prime Ali before the lay off, he moved more than any heavy weight ever. Only standing 6'3" weighing 217 lbs. he would run circle around the heavy weights today making a bunch of boring fight while winning in my opinion them all.

    To me thats the Ali that would win, the one who came back after the 3 year lay off. In my opinion would have a rough time winning some fights and easier time with others. That 3 years off took alot away from the fighter Ali was.
     
  6. Urone2

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    Sorry, buddy there is no way this could be fact, it hypothetical. Ali's foot work would baffle Wlad, working off angles that Wlad has never had to deal with. Wlad's perfect stlye would not work Wlad would be forced to come forward because of Ali's speed of foot and his style would go out the window. This is not fact but hypothetical.
     
  7. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    I saw an interview recently where they asked Wlad if he thought he could beat a prime Ali and Wlad responded that Ali is the greatest and will remain the greatest. I think Wlad's nuthuggers should probably take a cue from him when it comes to this subject because Ali's win over a prime Foreman > anything Wlad or his brother have ever accomplished. :deal
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad refuses to cut good champions down.

    When Vlad was asked if he and Vitali were to fight Vlad said that Vitali would win.

    A very small fighter, Henry Cooper, had Ali out on his feet, so Angelo Dundee cut Ali's glove to save him from getting knocked out. Thus according to Angelo Dundee.

    Klitschkos would have no problem beating Ali's opponents, Norton, Gerry Cooney knocked him out, Jimmy Young, Holmes, Evangelista, etc.
     
  9. bowerboy

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  10. True_Hero

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    That's because Wlad is a very modest man. Of course if asked he would say that to show respect to the former champ. If he said "I would destroy Ali" he would come across as arrogant... even if it is true.

    Ali wouldn't be able to cope in the modern era of boxing. Fact.
     
  11. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Bull****. The modern era wouldn't be able to cope with Ali.... Bunch of ****ing overweight cab drivers. What's Wlad's best wiin? Exactly. :deal
     
  12. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Neither Wlad nor Vitali have ever beaten anyone close to a prime George Foreman and Wlad's been knocked out by bums... Nevermind knocked down. Vitali tore his ****ing shoulder because he couldn't catch Chris Byrd... You think he'd be able to catch Ali? No ****ing way. Ali would box circles around these big, robotic oafs.
     
  13. Farmboxer

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    Foreman was beaten up badly by Axel Schultz, but was still given a split decision, so a rematch was called for by the IBF, Foreman gave up his title rather than fight a rematch. Vlad fought Axel Schultz, was the first to stop him. Vlad stopped him in the 8th round. Vlad fought all the champions, except the WBC which Vitali won after coming off a 4 year layoff. Vitali or Vlad would easily knock out Henry Cooper, Norton, Young, Evangelista, etc., even Gerry Cooney knocked out Norton. Frazier would have been a sitting duck against either Klitschko.
     
  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Boiling down Ali's claim to be the 'greatest' to the win over Foreman shows how clueless you are. And how you're completely misinterpreting Wlad's assertion of Ali's historic standing.
     
  15. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Foreman was nearly 50 years old and fat as **** when he beat Schultz, and the fact that both Klitschkos fought him after that only goes to show how **** poor their competition has been. Vitali's biggest accomplishment is putting up a decent fight against an old, fat, unmotivated Lennox before Lennox punched a hole in his face. Wlad's biggest win was over a fat Nigerian panhandler who needed two tries to pull out a convincing win over a blown up, old, punchdrunk super middleweight. If that fat, slow neanderthal had Wlad on ***** street several times, how in the **** would the much faster, much more skilled, much more active Joe Frazier be a sitting duck for him? You're a ******, and you're talking out of your blown out poop chute as usual.