BLEEP. And to think you edited your original post that I quoted above to add more thoughts of man love...atsch
Ok Joseph lets get this straight.. After Roy's victory over Tarver, you believe Gonzalez was the man of the division? Keep in mind, Roy also reclaimed those titles he vacated to win the WBA Heavyweight championship.. It wasn't the same as some no name rising up and winning them. Just a simple yes or no will do.. No more gayness please.
Joe. Boxer does what he does best... Logs off when he is backed into a corner.. Then will show up out of nowhere in a few days, reloaded with gay slurs, and conveniently forgets the thrashing he took.
Weight drained, glass jawed Roid, as you love to cry over, was "the man"? Because he defeated Gonzalez a few years earlier before Roid's deterioration? The only one stupid here is YOU. Gonzalez was Lineal champ after doing what Roid repeatedly refused to even attempt. The balance had changed with Roid and you know it. At least try to be honest with yourself. Was Mosley not the champion because of cotto? Was Foreman not the champion because of Holyfield? Do you have any fukkin idea about boxing? No, here is where YOU lose. Badly. Who the **** said Hopkins was the man? Hopkins? No. Roy? No. Learn to read. Now you're trying to move the goal posts with "undisputed" because you've been owned. Cute. Nice nonsensical spinning and trying to worm your way out. Nice as in pissweak. Laughing stock. No, YOU have been completely owned and schooled, you delusional clown. At least try and stay in touch with reality. You can't understand simple facts and have dug yourself a massive hole. You lose, yet again.
:roll: You're fooling no one. The only one taking a thrashing is you. Along with being a few other posters' *****, you're my punchbag from now on :finger.
Not being a clueless fanboy or hater I saw simply it for what it was - Gonzalez as Lineal/WBO, and Roid as The Ring/WBC/WBA (Super).
WBO Lineal Gonzalez was not the man of the division for beating shot DM.. And yes, Roy wiping the floor with him earlier certainly plays into it.. And the deterioration you speak of, was not known until after the Johnson fight, so don't try to sit here and act as if you knew it all along, everyone on the planet thought Roy was drained against Tarver and would come back stronger.. Which he actually did, but got caught with a great punch. Had Roy dropped from HW and beat a fading DM, you would have accused him of ducking another big southpaw in Tarver and yet again picking on a past it fighter. Be honest with yourself. No.. Roy was clearly the man after showing his courage, and winning a close but clear fight not at 100% against a big southpaw that is arguably all wrong for him.. The circumstances are far too different for me to even get what you are getting at here. Was it not you that stated Hopkins was not the lineal champ but was the "best" in the division? I consider the recognized "best" as the man.. I guess we use different terms. Undisputed means that your claim as the best fighter in the division is realized.. I didn't spin ****. wow.. Just wow.. So are you claiming that Gonzo was the best in the division at the time of Tarver Jones 1?
WHO WAS THE MAN OR BEST IN THE DIVISION AT THE TIME???? It seems we narrowed it to Jones and Gonzalez.. Quit dancing around the question.
The mental floggings have certainly got to Joe.. As he is ducking certain questions, because he knows in answering them, It will lead him to somewhere he doesn't want to go, and yet expose his hating and hypocritical bull**** even further.
He was Lineal/WBO champion, and considering he went to Germany to challenge DM when DM was going for Marciano's record, HE WAS MORE "THE MAN" THAN ROID EVER WAS. Fact. The Johnson fight?? He struggled to even finish the 12 rounds vs Tarver. Look at the whole performance. He was clearly deteriorating . Don't pretend everyone on the planet expect him to return to his best after that. You can't have it both ways. Not now, fanboy. The shot which shattered his glass jaw was a great punch? Wasn't even devastating. Nice meaningless copycat cop-out bull****. Clearly you have no answer. No, that didn't make him "the man". Courage? Like when he repeatedly refused to travel to Germany when so many of his rivals did? Re-read what you just typed. Your idea of "the man" is indeed something else. Something *****. I'm not surprised you're confused. No, you're just stuttering and back-peddling because you're getting owned. Nice nonsense, meaningless answer, *****. You tried to re-write the meaning of "undisputed" in boxing terms after I'd schooled your hopeless inaccurate "facts". Pathetic. huh? wtf are you babbling on about? ffs this is too easy. You're genuinely ******ed as well as being clueless.
At this point Gonzalez was Lineal/WBO, and if either was "the man" it was obviously Gonzalez for having the balls to go to Germany and defeat DM - when DM was going for Marciano's record no less. Jones was still the best despite him slipping. There was no "undisputed" champion.
:roll: again, you're fooling no-one. Not even yourself. You're ****-easy work for me, because I'm a far more knowledgeable and smarter poster than you. I expose your embarrassing lack of knowledge and judgement with every post. Don't be too butthurt however, as the schooling I give you will only help you in the long run :hi:.
Ha! Joe's getting brutally destroyed, yet thinks he's winning the debate. Medication time! I'll be back in a few days.