Chris John 50-0 & 20 title defense, in 2 more fights!

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In 2 more fights, he will break two records

    • Rocky Marciano 49-0 (Chris John has 3 draws though)
    • Eusebio Pedroza 19 title defenses (Both are WBA)
     
    eltirado, Aug 17, 2013
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  2. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The 49 win thing is cursed unless you look at guys like jcc who lost after 93 fights or something . If he achieves 50-0 then loses it gets wiped out? So he would need to win two and retire ASAP. The draws being allowed doesn't seem right (or Ricardo Lopez would have the record, no?)
     
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  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Valuev Curse
     
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  4. TowersOfIce

    TowersOfIce Max Kellerman ruined HBO Full Member

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    The Marciano one is only relevant at heavyweight.
     
    TowersOfIce, Aug 18, 2013
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  5. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    john a legend and jmm's granddaddy
     
    fytelod, Aug 18, 2013
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  6. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Credit where credit is due, he is the father of JMM.
     
    Above Deck, Aug 18, 2013
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  7. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    John's claim to fame will be a gift decision over JMM.

    His undefeated record should have stopped at 36 but god bless boxing judges.
     
    ElCyclon, Aug 18, 2013
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  8. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    John came to the states for 2 fights other than that.. he has JMM win.. Lastly I will not let this die it would be nice to see him Fight Doniare in one of his last 2 fights..
     
    Icanteach2005, Aug 18, 2013
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I rather see a clean 50-0-0, but I will not argue with draws. Ricardo Lopez was there & the draws sometimes indicate very close fights.

    The 20 Title defenses is a world record also, that can't be questioned because the 18 title defense record is also WBA
     
    eltirado, Aug 18, 2013
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  10. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He really screwed up his career from a legacy standpoint by just staying over in Indonesia. He had a few fights here against Juarez I think, I thought he was going to stay in the US and try to build up his legacy a bit against top level competition.
     
    Enigmadanks, Aug 18, 2013
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  11. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fight # 49 Donaire
    Fight # 50 Rigo

    If he wins both, he earns ATG at Feather. Saddler, Sanchez, Pep...etc can step aside :yep
     
    eltirado, Aug 18, 2013
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He'll be doing it just in the nick of time, he is knocking on the door of being very shot.

    He was already slightly past his prime in the Juarez draw, and while he still displayed world class ability in 2011 and 2012 (highlighted by the the epic all-Indonesian clash with Yordan, which is maybe his best victory considering the quality of the opponent since Marquez) he looked to be having a rough night against Hosono before the cut ended it.

    To break those records he will need to be matched carefully, and you're always reaching into a snake pit when cherry picking among ranked contenders. There is always that diamond in the rough...someone we have never heard of could have the current John's number and the jig would be up..
     
    IntentionalButt, Aug 18, 2013
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  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chris John legacy is questionable so he has to cherry pick ATG quality fights, with Chris John style I think even top 50 guys can give him the same trouble an elite fighter will give him. So he might as well take the risk of fighting 2 big fights to break the record.

    Big name option (Both fighters will accept Indonesia)
    #49 Donaire: I think John can win a decision, as long as its in Indonesia
    #50 Rigo*: He also can win a decision against Rigo as long as its in Indonesia

    or

    Unification Option (In the USA, because both are on the up)
    #49 IBF Champion Evgeny Gradovich
    #50 WBC Champion Abner Mares

    That way 10 years from Now, he can be a strong case in the Featherweight ATG category
     
    eltirado, Aug 18, 2013
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  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Looks like John is taking Calzaghe's route to the extreme.
     
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  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    WBA garbage defenses

    not one unification fight in 50 fights. yawn
     
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