The Russians are coming, the russians are coming----

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow for the first time in history we have from Russia, Heavyweight champion Klitschko -
    We have a sensational lightheavyweight puncher, best in his division
    Sergey Kovalev-
    And at middleweight the the best puncher in boxing today Gennady Golovkin...
    What say ESB ?
     
  2. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3 Eastern European punchers sitting atop the 3 heaviest classic divisions... who would have thought that 20 years ago?
     
  3. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    B, how do we account for this complete turnabout ? Is it because Russian amateur boxers of yesterday, were not allowed the opportunity to come to the USA to compete with American and Western boxers ? Competition brings out the best in fighters, and today in Klitschko as the best heavyweight in SPITE of his advanced age, along with Sergey Kovalev, who is the hardest punching light heavyweight by far today, and in Gennady
    Golovkin, we have the most destructive punching middleweight I have seen in years, a KILLER with a baby face....Too bad that today they fight only 2 or 3 times a year...And thank HBO and Showtime for the opportunity to
    watch a Kovalev and the baby faced Assassin, Golovkin...
     
  4. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the past, there were probably quite a few Eastern Europeans, who could have made it all the way to the top as pros - if only they had been given the chance!

    The Russians themselves rate light welterweight Vladimir Yengibaryan, who won Olympic gold in 1956, very highly. He's said to have boxed in a somewhat "western/pro" style - so he could likely have adapted very well to the pro ring. He was a bit before my time though, so I have only read about him.

    But I do remember another very fine Russian from the 60s, light middleweight Boris Lagutin, who won 3 olympic madals, and was a very clever boxer. He, too, would have been an obvious candidate for a successful pro career.

    And then there was one of the biggest-punching amateurs ever, middleweight Vyacheslav Lemeshev, also from the former Sovjet Republic. Lemeshev won Olympic gold in the '72 Munic Games - where he stopped 4 of 5 opponents inside 2 rounds. He had a right that simply "turned the lights out" when he landed... and I recall how people at the time were talking about what would happen, if he was allowed to take a fight against Carlos Monzon. That's how highly thought of he was!

    I'm sure, there are countless others from the old Eastern Block, who could have made it as pros - but those 3 are the ones that immediately come to (my) mind.
     
  5. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Klitschkos are not from Russia.
     
  6. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Imagine a phone booth war of Igor Vitshotsky vs Smokin' Joe Frazier in the early 70's if Igor could have fought in the professional ranks? If he doesn't suffer debilitating facial cuts because of his tissue-thin skin I would favor the Russian powerhouse. In fact, only Ali, Foreman, Jimmy Young (because styles make fights) would be favored against Vitshotsky in a professional fight imo.
     
  7. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Igor beats Quarry, Norton, Shavers, Lyle, Chuvalo, etc. Basically anyone who is there to be hit and gets into a war in that era would have huge problems. Igor was slightly over 6ft. tall and weighed a rock-solid 215lbs. with a bull neck and powerful chest, sturdy legs, etc. Knocked out the great Teliofelo Stevenson in the early 70's when Stevensen was in his prime.
     
  8. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    The Russians purposely kept him out of the Olympics because having to engage in a lot fights in a short time his face would invariably be cut up. Vitshotsky was meant for professional boxing. It would have suited him better than amateur.
     
  9. Beatle

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    HW: Wlad

    LHW: Kovalev

    MW: Golovkin

    WW: Provodnikov

    LW: Shafikov
     
  10. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Racially, Ukrainians and Russians are the same. And Kiev used to be the capital of Russia.
     
  11. sugarkills

    sugarkills Active Member Full Member

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    It wasn't just propaganda. Rocky 4 became reality. The ol' black champions from the past have faded away and giants from Russia came to conquer boxing.

    *Soviet Union National Anthem*
     
  12. UROP!!!

    HW: Wlad, Vitali
    CW: Huck, Wlodarczyk
    LHW: Kovalev, Woge
    SMW - WW: GGG
    LWW: Provodnikov

    UROP!!!
     
  13. ikeabuchia

    ikeabuchia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am probably showing my age too but what the hell Vyacheslav Lemeshev
    was absolutely brutal made gennady and kovalev punchers look like fly swats!
    but that time there was alot of steroid in the eastern block alledgely
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    GGG is from Kazakhstan
     
  15. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    Once there was a question why GG does not represent Russia?
    He got irritated with the question and angrily answered "why should I represent Russia?! I was born and grew up in Kazakhstan, my parents live there! I just don't understand why such stupid questions are asked..."
    Recently he said "my mother is Korean, my father is Russian, but I am Kazakh!"
     
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