Let's have a little chat about Scott Quigg and Carl Frampton

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  1. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two excellent young boxers who I rate very highly. We've seen recently Frampton make the switch from Eddie Hearn to Frank ****** while Quigg jumped from Hatton to Hearn. I was very surprised when I heard Frampton left Hearn to go to ******, afterall arn't matchroom thriving at the moment and they seem to be the promotional company to be with.

    The reason I assumed Frampton left Matchroom was because he felt he had fell down the pecking order and maybe wasn't a 'No.1' fighter there. I can understand that to a certain extent but since he left matchroom and Quigg joined them Quigg has gotten a title shot while Frampton is fighting yet another elimenator.

    If it wasn't bad enough for Frampton to see Quigg get a shot so quickly I see Hearn is in negotiations with Martinez for a title unification before Quigg has even got the title. That's great promotional work from Hearn and Quigg must be on top of the world with the opportunities he's getting so soon into his deal with Eddie Hearn.

    Now, we all want to see Frampton and Quigg face eachother in what looks to be a 50/50 fight and one that should see both men very well paid but if Quigg has two titles and Framton none where does that leave Frampton in negotiations if they were ever to fight? He'll end up with a 80/20 split not in his favour when not so long ago he seemed to be the one bossing negotaitions for the fight.

    So what I ask you guys is, why the hell did Frampton leave Matchroom to go to Frank ****** when ****** appears to me to be struggling? Look at how quickly Quigg is getting these shots. I like Quigg, I like Frampton, I like Hearn, I like ****** and I'd like to see all of them doing well from the sport but I can't help but think Frampton has made a huge miscalculation while Quigg has made the best decision of his life.

    What are your guys thoughts?
     
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  2. WBCIBFWBAChamp.

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    Framptons up mcguigans ass
     
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  3. REEVO

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    Barry mcguigan and his Irish Ego...
     
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  4. Old Greg

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    Frampton has shown he is world level, can box front foot or back, can take a punch and has true KO power. Also was an accomplished amateur and can sell out the biggest arena in his country.


    I like Quigg though he's still a lot to prove, he's one win of note against Munroe and has been dropped a couple of times by non punchers.

    Frampton is a level above for me right now, hopefully both lads will meet sooner rather than later.
     
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  5. Solaris

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    They are miles away from meeting. Would have to happen on Sky, no other choice.
     
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  6. GJM

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    No reason why ****** and McGuigan couldn't make an offer to Martinez too.

    Frampton would shift more tickets and they'd probably be prepared to offer Martinez more given Frampton would be the challenger as opposed to a unification with Quigg... if he wins.

    They sure as **** won't be going after Rigo if they want a title and I'd be surprised if they went after Leo Santa Cruz once he's beaten Terrazas, so at the moment all roads lead to Kiko.
     
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  7. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns making it obvious on twitter he has the Martinez fight with Quigg all but signed. Imagine Quigg could be a two time champion before Frampton gets a shot. The very frustarting thing for Frampton is though, if he just stayed put he'd be the one getting these shots. I wouldn't be in the know but it seems to me that FrankW is skint and if Hearn wants a fighter to come to England he's going to brush FrankW aside with sterling.

    As I've already asked though, what on earth persuaded Frampton to leave Hearn? I'd love to know exactly what went on there because it seems to me he's set his career back a year or two by doing so.

    What should have been a 50/50 fight with Quigg and Frampton both in the ring and in negotiations Frampton will now end up being paid shite and that's of the fight even happens.

    Is it too late to go back to Eddie? Would Eddie have him back?
     
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  8. Furey

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    They are both big talents, but for me Frampton is the better of the two.

    I think he's made a huge mistake leaving Hearn for F'rank whilst Quigg, who was stuck on the sidelines for ages after the Munroe rematch has joined up with Hearn which has opened up a lot of doors.

    Like it's been said before, with both of them with rival promoters they are miles apart from meeting.
     
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  9. P4P-Ruler

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    Thing is, both are destined to meet next yr. Frampton will fight early 2014 with winner of Mathebula/Martinez and will beat either easily. Quigg should get past Salinas, hey presto. Two top contenders, unification, stadium fight.
     
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  10. KidJackal

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    Frampton is the better all round fighter for me, big puncher and he can box. He can sell out big arenas in Belfast he's just got a lot more upside IMO. Massive mistake going to W****n though.
     
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  11. Solaris

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    Quigg has a far, far bigger audience to appeal too. People forget that.
     
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  12. Hattonmad

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    Hearn reckons he has a Martinez unification fight for Quigg thus leaving Quigg with two titles and Frampton with none.
     
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  13. sharpy

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    Guess a certain amount depends on the sort of guy kilo is. Does he want to unify and dodge frampton after his loss or would he sacrifice the unification to avenge his defeat. If the k.o didn't affect him too much I think he would be up for fighting frampton again as it wasn't particularly one sided
     
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  14. Roddy Collins

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    It wouldn't really be a proper unification though, if Quigg does get the shot against Kiko I'd expect him to dump the WBA Bauble, can't see him going anywhere near Guillermo Rigondeaux.
     
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  15. sharpy

    sharpy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No really they need to fight each other and the likes of Santa Cruz and terazzas and then at least they will have a bit more experience but I can't see either getting near him at the moment. I think quigg could well end up moving up a good few weights if he keeps winning
     
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