Ortiz is called a quitter.. so should Angulo?

Nicely said

 

Are you forgetting the Maidana fight? That's where the criticism of Ortiz stems from.

 

Ortiz is the most exciting fighter of the last 5 years so anybody that hates on him for anything he does in the ring is impossible to please.

 

That's like calling Sugar Ray Robinson a puss-cake for not being able to handle the heat against Joey Maxim and passing out like a coward from it. After all, Maxim wasn't bothered by it...

 

I'm not saying I feel that he's a quitter, but there is more context to Ortiz than simply the Lopez fight. Fact of the matter is, Vic didn't go out on his shield and flat out told the world "I don't think I deserve to get beat up like this". That's the reality of why he's perceived the way he's perceived.

 

Yes, because it's a prudent to compare victor ortiz to sugar ray robinson. :rofl

 

Funniest thing was when Ortiz tried to push his trainer to get past and fight like he wasnt the one who said he wants out, he thought we wouldnt find out

 

because with victor, there is a pattern and a type. he has shown courage in fights but his threshold for punishment is a bit below most of his peers. at least that is what he has shown.

 

Ortiz doesn't have the mentality for boxing

Mayweather headbutt
Maidana quit job
Lopez hitting back of head when down (even after thinking about whether he should or not for a few seconds) - then got his jaw crushed (shouldn't have pissed Lopez off)

He did quit against Lopez - Was it the right thing to do though? yes... Should people complain? No... unless they expect every fighter to fight to the death or continue with a broken jaw like Abraham. Ortiz would have been fcked if he let Lopez hit that jaw with any more left hooks, The doctor probably would have stopped it.

 

Angulo's corner should have stopped the fight...or the doctor.
He had an injury that could have been serious.

I can't label him a quitter because ot that.

 

Ortiz has a pattern of looking for a way out of a fight when it's not going well for him. I don't blame him for quitting with a broken jaw, but that was one example amongst several others.

The Mayweather debacle was Ortiz looking for a way out of what was about to be an extended ass whipping. He quit against Maidana... etc...

 

As others have said, the difference is that Ortiz has established a pattern of quitting or mentally checking out of his fights when he's pushed. The "don't deserve" fight against Maidana. The weird allowed comeback against Peterson after manhandling Peterson early. The headbutt/overapologizing against Floyd. Lastly, the broken jaw against Lopez. The only fight against a legitimate threat where he seemed to put it all together was against Berto(and now it's fairly clear how overrated that was as a win). Angulo has lost most of his step up fights, but the Lara fight is the only real quit job on there, and Angulo is 31 now while Ortiz is still a relatively young man in the game,

 

Angulo had his eye socket broken.
Ortiz got beat up and went full puto.