Floyd won't give Pacquiao a Fight?

Why would the blame be all on PBF? That's just ridiculous. Pac turned down testing that killed the fight fact. That can't be overlooked in the PED era of sports but people like to give him a free pass because they like him more than PBF which is straight bull****. Pac now is taking those same tests to fight Rios he refused to take to fight PBF. Also it's not all on PBF. Hell I can say but he didn't fight PBF.

 

no surprises from floyd duckweather

 

Fcuks like you are the worst kind of boxing fan you let personal bias get in the way of facts. The facts are Pac refused to be tested in the PED era of sports. No clean athlete will object to testing if they know they're indeed clean. Period end of discussion. I would also add that Team Pac said originally they would have no problems with testing only to change their tune later. Why is that? Why object to testing? Why call off talks and run off and fight Clottey a fight no one wanted or demanded? Both had a hand in this but don't act as if Pac really tried to make the fight if he did he would have tested.

 

I have always felt Floyd was not afraid of Pac, but he was afraid of losing to Pac.

 

Exactly, it's basically the same thing as Bowe not fighting Lewis. Had Bowe fought and maybe even beaten Lewis his whole legacy would be different. Instead..

The reason it's mostly on Floyd is because he's the one making demands and refusing to fight if the demands aren't met.

It's also his legacy we're discussing.

A win over Pac would eliminate any doubt that he ducked anyone and it any doubt that certain styles might have given him trouble. We already know that Pac has lost a few times so we know that JMM for example is always going to be a tough fight stylistically for him, what we don't know is whether or not Floyd can handle the style Pac brings into the ring. A volume pressure fighting puncher with pop, who's a lefty.

If Floyd gave a damn about his legacy and the boxing community in general he'd make this fight, and they do test for drugs whether it's Olympic style testing or not. And if he wins, who cares about the test anyway?

 

I think it was a Lennox Lewis interview, but he said that the reason he fought Tyson was because he felt that he'd forever be bombarded by the question "Who was better between Lewis and Tyson?". Mayweather will be dealing with Pacman for the rest of his life I think, where as Pacquiao has some exciting tear ups that the fans will remember, as well as the JMM series, so Pacquiao will get by much easier than May will in the future with avoiding the mention.

I had never seen that Mayweather promotions thing. Smh @ it. Mayweather does seem to have grown up a lot recently though. Saying "I'd rather leave it in the past" and stuff makes him seem like much less of an ass than he used to be.

 

Maywather is tailor made to defeat Pacquiao, and not just that, he might be the greatest of all time too. I don't think Mayweather was afraid of losing to Pacquiao, but afraid of losing full stop.

Taking this fight with Alvarez, although he's still a heavy favourite, showed me that he's noticed this himself, and Alvarez imo is a guy who's going to boost Mayweather's legacy out of that "I only pick easy fights" category that he's been tarred with for years.

 

It was Showtime that forced Floyd's hand & made him pick someone who has a chance at least on paper. The Guererro fight was a financial disaster for them.
The cold hard facts are Canelo has to KO Floyd to stand any chance of winning. No way in hell will Canelo ever get a dec over Floyd in Vegas. Hell would freeze over first.
Oh yeah Freaky Floyd has made sure, as always he has every advantage his way before he ever gets in ring

 

Mayweather clearly saw Pacquiao as a huge threat to his 0..

This I have no doubt about.

 

And how many people really changed their belief on who they thought was the better fighter based on Lewis' victory? Maybe it resolved something in Lewis' own psyche, but it didn't change the minds of the vast, vast majority of Tyson or casual fans.

The better comparison for Lewis is the Bowe fight. Would be curious to know if Lewis feels any regret for that fight not happening, or is he comfortable with what he's accomplished without it.

 

I think Lewis would have loved to have fought Bowe. He had already beat him in the Olympics and it appeared that he had a huge mental edge of him. Many say that version of Bowe would have beaten that version of Lewis, but it was in Bowe's hands to have made the fight, and instead he chose not to. It would have been the two best heavyweights since Bowe just beat Holyfield and Lewis just destroyed Ruddock, and it would have also been a revenge fight for Lewis having beaten Bowe out of Olympic gold. Why they would give this up is still a mystery to me. Had Bowe won, his career and legacy would have been very different, having wins over both prime Lewis and Holyfield.

 

But yet you don't question Pac's 10 million dollar fine demand that PBF accepted? You can't have it both ways. You can't call out PBF for making demands and then not do the same with Pac with his. It's not all up to PBF to fight Pac. PBF is the face of boxing not the other way around.

 

I don't dispute that it's all one sided but certainly Floyd is the one making most of demands and by and large he's the one trying to dictate the terms in which he's willing to fight. Pac appears to be much more reasonable when it comes to trying to make the fight happen. That said, as I mentioned once before I haven't been following the negotiations as close as some, so I'm only telling you my unbiased perception of what I feel is happening.

Truthfully, I don't even care who wins if they were to fight, I just want to see it happen, before long, and hope that it's a damn good fight for as long as it lasts.

 

Dude your a clown!

Showtime didnt force anything. Canelo will bring in the most money and Mayweather almost all the time fights people off there biggest wins. Canelo had just beat Trout who people said he would never fight. He likes fighting mexicans on thest type of dates, so there it is. this Showtime forced him to do fight Canelo is ridiclous.

Now Canelo most likely has to KO Floyd to win but thats because Floyd is that good, not because Canelo sucks. nobody will ever win 7 rounds against mayweather. so if somehow u think Pac would you've lost your damn mind. Styles make fights and Pac would get the living crap beat out of him, hence why they ducked the fight.

Now with you talking about no way Canelo gets a decision in Vegas, it wont be because of that. it would be because he got outboxed. but think about this, you got this backwards. I feel if Canelo has a couple of spurts and its close down the line Canelo might get a chance at a win. i mean come on, Mayweather won 9-3 (8-4 if your nice) against DLH and somehow a judge gave DLH 7-5, SO U GOT IT BACKWARDS BRO.

 

This forum is still **** I see. If the fight gets signed all you idiots saying he's scared will say its a cherry pick just like Canelo. End thread.