Canelo's Power Is Overated

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by DigitalDopeman, Aug 21, 2013.


  1. Broner has fought nobody. A past prime Paulie exposed Broner.


    It will happen sooner or later, ****... Spence JR ktfo Broner in sparring
     
  2. BoxingX

    BoxingX Active Member Full Member

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    Ward also has a claim for p4p no. 1. I do not like Ward, but I rate him as my p4p no. 1.

    His recent win streak is a lot more impressive than Floyd's. Guerrero and a struggled victory against Cotto isn't as impressive as Ward's run in the Super Six where he barely dropped a round in most fights against consistent opposition of different styles.

    Rigo would have the claim if he did a similar job on Mares or Garcia. He's my #3.

    Ward
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    Floyd moves back to no.1 in the event of a clean victory over Alvarez.
     
  3. This makes sense and I see what you're saying. My problem with Ward is he's been inactive for so long it bothers me. But I do like ward. If Floyd wipes the floor with Saul then I'll have no problems saying he is the best hands down of our time, he just might be. But until then I just don't know


    I don't read into the Ghost fight at all. Robert is a moron
     
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    Precisely. Not only that, but he consistently gets tagged way too much for a guy with vaunted talent and skills supposedly. He gets hit more than Matthysse does and against far inferior opposition to what Matthysse fights, especially to the body.

    Power punching 140 or 147 is going to drill flat footed Broner to the body and being that any fighter worth their salt in that weight range now would be obliterating Paulie, we saw that Broner did not carry his power up to Welter, but we did see that he carried his too low workrate and carried his holes in his game, which larger and superior technical fighters will easily exploit.

    It is amusing with the boxing fan that certain flashy styles indicate 'skills' to them. Both Garcia and Matthysse have superior technical skills to Broner and have proved it against better opposition.

    Gavin Rees was landing on Broner...

    Matthysse destroys him. Broner and his fans need to quit living in fantasy land, there's a reason he's parading around as the biggest d-bag in the game to get attention and taking the weakest prey - attention/money and he's beatable.
     
  5. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess you're a Broner fan too:rofl

    Fu.cking hater

    How on earth you can say Malinaggi exposed Broner is beyond all reason:lol:
    Paul was running from a guy with ZERO fights at 135.
    That outta' tell you something.

    Spence Jr did not KO Broner....just stop.
     
  6. Zaryu

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    Canelo's power is not overrated. He has the power to stop Floyd, the big question is if he has the skills and conditioning to pull it off.
     
  7. BoxingX

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    The Guerrero fight was useless. I had no issue with his selection of Cotto because Cotto is a worthy contender to anyone, especially with the form he came in vs. Floyd, but Floyd has wasted so much time fighting scrubs. Guerrero - Ortiz , etc...

    That's not including his stint at 140 for almost two years where you had washed up Gatti, Bruseles and then Mitchell for his move to 147. He just lolligags in between fighting worthy opponents and it's frustrating for me, I used to be a fan, I am no longer a fan, just don't like that kind of stuff and I don't like the weight clause on Alvarez when he blatantly accused Pac of using those to his advantage in the past.

    It's a money sport and a blood sport, but I'm not into this ridiculously blatant safety first for the most money thing as a spectator. It's great for Floyd to make 50 million a fight against guys that present no challenge, but it's not for the fan.

    Alvarez is a legit opponent though, minus this catchweight which I hope doesn't drain him so we get a good fight.

    I hear you on Ward and in the inactivity, but that's why if the other two top 3 in my list get a big W, they'll overtake him and he doesn't seem to have anything on the schedule soon.
     
  8. Mr Pibb

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    Lots of Floyd's opponents had the power to stop him.:deal
     
  9. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup, I'm guessing their power wasn't overrated either (for the most part)
     
  10. Mr Pibb

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    so much hate.....it's a feminine emotion.
     
  11. Mr Pibb

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    Canelo's power is overrated....

    You'd think he was Julian Jackson by the way his riders talk.
     
  12. BoxingX

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    - Paulie's shot and barely got past Cano. His other forays recently include a stoppage loss and domination vs. the ever impressive Amir Khan(sarcasm).

    - Paulie's always been a B level titlist that elite level guys chew up.

    - Paulie isn't a big WW or natural WW, so take it as Broner fighting a 140 guy.

    - Paulie landed quite a lot of shots on Broner and won at least 4 rounds, presenting issue's with movement and workrate and landing a lot to the body, which doesn't work much since he has never been a puncher. In fact, he's the polar opposite to a puncher being that he has little power and has brittle hands so he strikes even less hard than he naturally can.

    - Broner's power evidently didn't show up being that he couldn't put a dent in Paulie.

    - Paulie showed that Broner's workrate is still an issue.

    An elite fighter blows out Paulie Malignaggi at this point. Paulie took 4 rounds and showed holes that are still in Broner's game.

    You can call that 'exposed', although intelligent boxing fans saw the holes in his game all along, so it's not much of anything being exposed, more or less just consistent flaws being shown on larger and larger platforms.

    Durrrrrr....:nut
     
  13. BoxingX

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    Right, because legitimate criticism is hate. I gave both credits and criticisms in the post. If hate is a feminine emotion, then you're full of that very feminine emotion against practically every non-African American fighter. Especially the Euro's who you give zero credit in silly, half trolling bias.

    Your boxing knowledge is non-existent.
     
  14. Zaryu

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    Must have never heard them then... But he's a pretty good puncher, and puts in some vicious combinations together.
     
  15. Mr Pibb

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    Oh I see where your hate is coming from now.

    It's really about Broner and Floyd's compexion.

    Broner at 24 makes those 30 something euro fighters look like rank cowards.